Hay guys this a hand I played a few months back any and all feedback is much appreciated!

(Hero $3500) Playing super snug in a 9handed game. There's 2 clear spots in the game and I'm probably the 3rd... Have only gone to show down maybe 3 times in a 5 hour session and had it all 3 times.

(V $4000) is a late 20's Asian male, Slightly LAG, Has been pretty Agro the past few hours but not getting super out of line. Definitely a reg/pro who is say is a overall better player than hero.

OTTH
7 handed

Hero is in the BB with Qh8s. Folds to SB who completes, hero completes & V in the straddle checks.

Flop ($60)
8h 3h 8d

SB checks, I check, V bets $45, SB calls, I c/r to $150. V calls, SB folds.

Turn ($405)
Kh

I check (not sure if this is a mistake or not? But I think if we bet we have to bet/fold also not sure if that's correct?) he bets $250 we call.

River ($905)
Ac

We check, V bets $500... hero?


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think this is a tough spot but maybe i'm just bad. my general thoughts:

i'm raising or folding preflop, would depend on your view of SB mostly. all i know is limping it to a good pro LAG who is straddling and has position on you is just a recipe for disaster.

i like the flop check considering villain is likely to take a stab with a huge part of his range here. i'm probably a bigger fan of calling flop but i can see arguments for raising.

as played, turn i probably continue betting though getting c/r sucks. checking just opens you up to getting blasted on turn and river and having no idea where you stand unless you boat up.

river is close, don't really know what to make of the sizing. can't really see him valuebetting a worse 8.

I disagree. We are getting great odds to call, so folding is a mistake unless the BB raises very frequently. If the straddler were a nit raising might be viable, to try to get hu with SB, who we do have position on and probably also has a pretty weak hand, but vs this 'slightly lag' profile in straddle call is best.

You know what I don't like doing when I'm 350bb* deep in a limped pot out of position on a two tone board vs a good aggro villain?

Telling him I have trips.

*if your biggest concern was I got the bb depth wrong, you're doing it wrong.

Lead the flop or c/c. I probably just bet.

Nh call now

I agree w above about not turning our hand face up this early w the flop line, so either c/c or lead. Probably leading.

Turn I'm having trouble finding a reason to check. I feel like we just have every option in the world against him on the river after betting turn w our image and blocker, but c/c closes all of it up. Do we really think he's checking back any Axhh pre? I don't, so now we have him capped to J high flushes or like 83, 33. He's not going to raise his J highs and we don't care really if we have to fold to the two later hands. Yeah, actually I just don't think he's raising the turn ever here unless he's pretty terrible.

I think the big mistake here is not betting turn. I just see no real downside to it unless he's just rampantly spewing here, which he doesn't sound like he is.

Otr I'm not sure by now w the line we've presented to vil. Would need some specifics on his 3 barrel/shut down frequency. This much is sure imo, he's pretty sure you have at least an 8 by now, and can value bet any flush (although I think they're limited to middle flushes) I think that his sizing is different/check here if he had AhXx so I don't think he has that and probably has limited pure bluffs as well. I think riv I'm leaning toward a fold.

Nice post^^ esp about the never having axhh

What is your river line after betting turn and what are your sizings?

(not to the decimal... but what is your thought process in sizing when the turn hurts our hand but overall we still have the nizzles a lot) I always get confused in spots like this (more so on nut changing rivers)

^^^ty

I really suck at sizing, but I'm trying to get better. I think something like 3/4 on turn and then around 2/3, maybe 3/4 again on river unimproved would be alright considering our image so like 300/725.

It's tough to know what level we're on without being at the table, but I would definitely have a different size on completing rivers, namely the Q, or Ah. A lot of the really good players in my game have just been going for pure value in these spots, like literally going 250 OTR if it's Ah, idk Q I bomb sometimes.

Lmk what you think, I'm a little over my head in the hand, but the best way to get the right answer is to post the wrong one

What do we beat on the river ?
I don't dislike the way you played it until the river. But we're unfortunately never good more than 25% of the time once he bets. Villain rightly reads us for what we have and is trying to extract value.
We are indeed quite face up but there is no reason for V to think we're folding to a $500 bet.