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Old 07-07-2017, 03:33 PM   #3476
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

Well you could have just put $40 in dead. It is a little ****ty to not post once the game has become 10/20/40


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Old 07-07-2017, 04:44 PM   #3477
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

Say you're really sorry. Promise to double straddle, even if blind, next time, and do it.
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:53 PM   #3478
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Say you're really sorry. Promise to double straddle, even if blind, next time, and do it.


Yeah that's what I did

Wasn't enough apparently !
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:35 PM   #3479
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it's pretty horrible.
funny that was taken at the venitian. i was at the venitian waiting for a seat when this kid i played with a few times said to me "aren't there any good plo games in vegas. what the ****." now he was right. there were a lot of bad games overall- way worse than 2 years ago.i had several people whose judgement i trust tell me that last year the plo games at venitian were amazing- this year i played in some good games but a lot of terrible ones. i'm also in a great mood from being stuck about 30k for the trip.


anyway i said to him "you wear sunglasses at the table, don't say a word and spend half your time on your tablet. look around this place and most tables are the same. why would any whale want to dump money in these games" to my surprise when we got seats in the game he ditched the sunglasses and actually tried making a little table talk.



there was one guy i played with about 27-28 years old who just got it. very good player but also super fun and nice at the table and one night at the wynn we got everyone doing shots was an awesome fun atmosphere. there really aren't many young guys who "get it" when it comes to making poker fun these days.

After comparing this wsop to my trip in 2015 i'm convinced a lot of rec players just aren't enjoying themselves as much anymore at wsop and either stop going or just went for a few days this year and i don't blame them.
If you were playing 2-5 NL at the Wynn, the guy buying shots was probably me...lol.
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:52 PM   #3480
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Well you could have just put $40 in dead. It is a little ****ty to not post once the game has become 10/20/40


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But if you forget legitimately then it's way ****tier for idiot regs to make a big deal about it and ruin the vibe of the game
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Old 07-13-2017, 06:37 PM   #3481
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But if you forget legitimately then it's way ****tier for idiot regs to make a big deal about it and ruin the vibe of the game


Blame game/wrong attitude. Can only control what you can control, just amend the situation and throw in your straddle anyways even after you mucked. Have done it plenty of times. Blaming the reg is silly, just tell him he is right and move on. Who cares if he is


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Old 07-14-2017, 10:11 AM   #3482
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Yeah I see both sides of it for sure. In retrospect maybe the best thing would've been to throw it in dead

In this context though the fact that I had already been straddling (it may have even been my idea I can't remember) and instantly offered to double straddle or whatever to make up for it should've signaled to the guy it was a genuine mistake and not a spot for him to get worked up over/upset the table.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:18 PM   #3483
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

Man, been waiting for an update for a while, hope things are better for you dgaf.
This has been one of the best and realest threads on here.

I mainly play 2/5 but was playing some 5/10 on the weekend, been running bad for like a month and a half, finally had a good night and won like 2k at 5/10 only to lose 3k the next night, feels bad man.
I know it's totally standard for that game, but yeah reminded me of that post where you won big, only to lost more the next day, the swings can be rough. I'm gonna have to grind more 2/5 before I jump back there.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:42 PM   #3484
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Man, been waiting for an update for a while, hope things are better for you dgaf.

This has been one of the best and realest threads on here.



I mainly play 2/5 but was playing some 5/10 on the weekend, been running bad for like a month and a half, finally had a good night and won like 2k at 5/10 only to lose 3k the next night, feels bad man.

I know it's totally standard for that game, but yeah reminded me of that post where you won big, only to lost more the next day, the swings can be rough. I'm gonna have to grind more 2/5 before I jump back there.


It's pretty amazing and annoying how important it is to run hot while shot taking. Sometimes I think it's what separates guys in super high stakes (where most aren't actually properly rolled) and those playing below.

Was crushing my Vegas trip playing 5/10 and 10/20 so took a shot at 25/50. Of course I lose an all in pre My AQhh vs AQo. And that's the difference between feeling good + have a nice little buffer at your new level and being tilted playing 5/10 lol

I'm a recreational player so even though I keep my rl roll and poker roll separate it's not the end of the world and can shot take again but for pros it must be insanely demoralizing, especially when it's not uncommon for the softest game in the room to be the nosebleed game with [random celebritiy/hong Kong whale] that's so close yet so far lol
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:57 AM   #3485
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

I will add that my attempts to be a little DGAF have paid off handsomely

Vegas July 4th week I play at a Strip poker room, and I make a point of requesting starting at new tables, this week I played 2/5.

My plan is simple - get the table talking, get the straddle on, get the drinking going if possible, even drum up some rivalry.

Antics are sure to follow - some included a young man from England calling me and my friends at my end of the table "passive" , then soon thereafter I 4 bet him and he folded - we all got a big lol out of me reminding him that July 4th was not the day for an Englishman to call an American passive. the table lol, all in good fun and we then had even more action.

Another ex. was the "I call BS call" , in my straddle I wake up with KK and I 3 bet, only to get 2 callers that announced "I call BS, I call" hijinks followed on a flop of K 10 10 and I won a sizable pot.

I want to thank DGAF for him comments and advice that paid for my last trip to vegas
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:19 AM   #3486
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

I showed up to a dead 2/5 table 5 handed and no talking with 2 people wearing sunglasses/hoodies. I started talking to the normal human beings and we all got a mandatory straddle going.

Instantly became a great game thanks DGAF
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:03 AM   #3487
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

I was sitting at a decent game with a big fish who had gotten lucky and accumulated a big stack and two guys nursing a 20bb stack. Several young pros who have obviously read this thread demanded we put on a mandatory straddle. The short stacks refused and got shamed repeatedly. I also refused because I didn't want the short stacks to benefit from the situation if they weren't going to straddle themselves. I got called a nit. The big fish got annoyed with the young pros' badgering and used it as an excuse to hit and run the game.

The lesson here is if you're going to try to get a mandatory straddle going, don't be a rude prick about it.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:02 AM   #3488
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The lesson here is if you're going to try to get a mandatory straddle going, don't be a rude prick about it.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:17 AM   #3489
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I think there's a big difference between getting a straddle going and keeping one going.

I've had quite a few really good games just vanish within minutes because 1 guy sits down and refuses to straddle, then 1-2 more guys stop and suddenly all the action is gone and the fish leave because they should have been home hours ago but stayed because they were having fun, now they're annoyed and bored.

I wouldn't personally be a rude prick in either scenario, but I can see some warrant to being a bit harsher on somebody who is literally killing the game by themselves.

Don't be "that guy" that kills the mood by being a dick.
Don't be "that guy" that kills a game because you refuse to straddle.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:25 PM   #3490
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I've had quite a few really good games just vanish within minutes because 1 guy sits down and refuses to straddle
This is why it needs to be more than a gentleman's agreement, the game actually needs to be changed to be a mandatory straddle game ie we aren't playing 5/10 and all agreeing to straddle, the game is actually 5/10/20 on the board.
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Old 07-26-2017, 09:43 AM   #3491
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This is why it needs to be more than a gentleman's agreement, the game actually needs to be changed to be a mandatory straddle game ie we aren't playing 5/10 and all agreeing to straddle, the game is actually 5/10/20 on the board.
I agree. IME it's easier to get it started by making it a gentlemens agreement for a round or two, but once you get it going you need to make it a priority to get the straddle on the board so that people can't back out or new people can't sit down and ruin it.
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Old 07-26-2017, 09:52 AM   #3492
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Also, making the straddle mandatory makes the double straddle more normal and then game can get really sick if that starts happening.
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:40 AM   #3493
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Also, making the straddle mandatory makes the double straddle more normal and then game can get really sick if that starts happening.
This. Having a 3 blind system automatically is great. It hurts the nits who object the instant someone refuses to straddle. And for those 'true' gamblers, it allows the double straddle which obviously is great for the game. This is the clear winner.
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:00 PM   #3494
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

I like using the Rock too. Seems kind of like a compromise between non-straddle and mandatory straddle
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:31 PM   #3495
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Rock is fantastic but seems to be more of a plo thing though I don't see why that has to be the case
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Old 07-26-2017, 06:17 PM   #3496
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My problem with the rock is morons start talking about how the rock impacts the ev of this decision or that decision to show how poker smart they are, and the floor gets mad if you smack them up side the head.
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Old 07-26-2017, 06:48 PM   #3497
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the rock seems to be awesome for nits, no? Aria 2/5/(10) PLO one can sit there patiently paying $7/orbit in blinds and then open pot for $40 and get plenty of action.
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