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Old 05-22-2017, 05:16 AM   #3376
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It gets incredibly dark and I also would never encourage someone to take this path. I think it can be done successfully but it's not something I would ever feel comfortable trying to push on someone else. It's a pipe dream and will destroy most people in the end
This x100000

So many people think playing poker professionally is just ez money but have no idea what goes on beneath the surface
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:08 PM   #3377
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DGAF, I just want you to know you have done the poker world a great service by writing about the abyss. It is really good writing and haunting how accurately you capture it.

When you talk about walking out in the parking lot, and almost wanting to get the **** kicked out of you. I know exactly what you mean.

You play thousands of hours and you hit low lows and high highs but no matter how much you make no matter how many hours you put in, if you see the abyss (few really see it imo), you question everything you ever knew. That's the hardest part. Your self confidence is totally destroyed, and you are alone. And then you read/see other pros baller status and how they never lose and they take retarded spew lines and everyone says "standard ldo" and you think wtf am I doing wrong.

So thank you. For not telling us about your huge wins. For not telling us about your baller status. For not telling us how good you are. For not justifying you horrispew lines.

Thank you for telling us about the abyss.
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:34 PM   #3378
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Thanks for all the kind words. It's validation/recognition I didn't think I needed (but I guess I did a little ). Even though I won't be replying any more/specifically, know that I'm very appreciative...

More importantly, thanks for the sharing of your own experiences/perspectives. Each new honest/insightful post (like Delivery's- who I don't know by sn, but 12k hours is more than 99% of all pros, so he got my attention right away) adds a ton of value to this thread. I realize most active members of 2p2/poker pros in general have lived on the right side of variance- doesn't mean they haven't seen some ****/maybe experienced it to some degree or another...

I have spent an incredible amount of time on this thread, mostly for my own clarity/sanity/education, partially for all of yours. I'm about to be done with it pretty much- like a dad sending his kid off to college or the military or something, and I very much look forward to seeing what it becomes once I let go. If more of you chime in, it will be an incredible resource for poker pros (and really, anyone who likes to play) imho.

Anyways, I'm gonna start releasing posts for the third and final part of this insanely long conclusion. Thanks for hanging on this long. Part 2 was obv no sunny day at the beach, but I had to keep it real (for the integrity of the thread). Part 3 will be better...

WRT playing Doug Polk hu and streaming it lol. 1) While I like my ideas/insights getting out there (it makes me feel like I'm contributing to society- one of the few keys to happiness I've learned), I have ZERO interest in ever being outed/becoming "poker famous" or whatever. I value privacy/anonymity A TON. 2) Seems like there are better spots lol.

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Old 05-23-2017, 11:35 PM   #3379
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

Go Harder


When I was really young (so young that I don’t remember this at all- my mom told me the story a few years ago), my brother and I had a Nerf basketball hoop in our room. My brother was/is 4 years older than me, and as mentioned at the beginning of “Part 2”, he was pretty much the worst older brother ever...

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So anyways, I guess my brother and I played a lot of “horse” on our Nerf hoop. He won every time because he shot 100% (when he tried) on all the shots that I could make, and he could make a bunch of other shots as well. But, being the sicko that he was/is lol, he would start each game by missing all his shots on purpose (while pretending to try), and he would let me get him all the way to “h-o-r-s” before flipping the switch and running the table on me...

Well, tired of losing every single time (in dramatic fashion) apparently, I waited until my brother got to his standard “h-o-r-s” (you know, as to give me maximum fake sweat/needle), and then instead of just throwing up some dumb, close-up shot that he would have missed earlier in the game- but magically would never miss now that the game was on the line, I finally got smart…

I walked to the back of the room, got down on my knees, squeezed the Nerf ball in one hand, braced myself with the other, leaned down, stuck my tongue out, and I crawled to the hoop- dragging my tongue on our dirty af carpet the entire way. Then I got up, made a lay-up, and I threw the ball at my brother...

It was my first win/pretty sure the last time we ever played Nerf horse ...
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:36 PM   #3380
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Awesome looking forward man
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Old 05-24-2017, 03:54 AM   #3381
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Whoever gets the honor to play cards with DGAF quickly understands why he just doesn't give a F***.
Some dude logged over 12k hours and you read his post. Well, The end of this World Series will mark seven years for this guy himself as poker being the main source of income. Most of the time spent was live in vegas (where we played manyyy times, once hu in commerce although briefly (I knew I was about to get wrecked so quit, than online, than private la and manhattan, live la, Florida, New Orleans, Oklahoma, panama, Peru, Argentina, **** it you get the point. I've played everywhere and there has never been anyone I learned more from, emulated more, or secretly admired their playing ability than this guy. Shout out from the woodworks thank you for being who you are and keeping it real. Thank you for being that personality in a table of robots, thank you for the laughs, the humor, the action, the ability to make playing poker with you easily more entertaining than anything in life at that moment. Thank you for the -Ev straddles, thank you for the one short convo outside hg, where you just say, "your pumped up right? Get the **** out". Yes many people don't get it in this world, thank you for getting it. No good deed goes unnoticed and it takes a real mf to still leave a 100 percent tip when he's nearly dead broke and on total life tilt. Compassion is your nature. The ones that matter see it and feel it.
A buddy told me to read this departing thread and I've read it all while currently in Hong Kong on a massive four hour delay. Variance is real in poker, it's real for flights too. Instead of bitching and moaning about how long this is taking, a combination of spending the last ten days in literal total silence and meditation in Thailand and the joy of reading this raw, uncut, no holding back account of a personal hero has me unphased by this minor misfortune. What has me tilted though is the memory of when Of the last time I saw you.
Back in feb or march. A whale emails me. Whale from two years ago where right after I come back from three months backpacking South America, I get in a five ten game and In two nights bink +55k at aria. We became friends and he writes, "my wife and I are coming to vegas for the weekend. I want to lose 100k to you and your friends than go back to Canada." Well, everything was going as planned the first two nights. Up heaps, things are flowing. Then, the third night word got out and the regs had their fits. I also played below the belt, but had my own reasons. Eventually whales wife had to go home and he wanted to play a different game. Only game running was you against another reg, a sharp wizard on a massive heater, who since I've come back to town has been wrecking faces. In the last hand, he beats you for a pot maybe in the 10k range when he flops a set of kings and an ace comes on the river where the flush misses and I'm guessing you call with aq bricked flop flush.
I felt bad for you. Very bad. And not only that, but you missed out on a guy that ended up dropping another 35 grand at 5/10, mostly all to that same kid. I myself got wrecked that session and my mind wasn't there. I felt some pain from you and now after reading this I know why.
You don't want sympathetic gestures, I'm not here to give you one. Man the **** up. You have a heart of a champion. Believe it again. I'll leave you with a story a monk told me a week ago.
If someone hits you in the face, you feel pain from getting hit in the face. But then after that, it's all up to how you handle it. You can complain, ***** and cry and keep adding more wood to the fire. This creates a shadow and before you know it, the pain from the actual punch is gone but this shadow is what you continue to carry.
Maybe it's selfish of me to say this, but poker needs you. I hope you come back. Much love and respect.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:29 AM   #3382
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I also kinda just feel like everyone is innocent- in a sense. We are all just products of our environment, victims of circumstance, apples from the tree…
Beautiful. Wish more people thought like this
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:59 PM   #3383
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WRT playing Doug Polk hu and streaming it lol. 1) While I like my ideas/insights getting out there (it makes me feel like I'm contributing to society- one of the few keys to happiness I've learned), I have ZERO interest in ever being outed/becoming "poker famous" or whatever. I value privacy/anonymity A TON. 2) Seems like there are better spots lol.

OK...
It would be pretty funny if you wore a mask and a cape. It might hinder you getting those crucial live reads though.
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:02 PM   #3384
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Beautiful. Wish more people thought like this

Yeah, this is one interesting viewpoint to hold! It is evil skepticism. I tend to agree with it too.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/concept-evil/
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