I will say that Casino del Sol is really trying - one of the better run small poker rooms I've played in. And we are trying to build the year round player pool so I guess we can take the chance of attracting a few good players. The Talking Stick 5-10 can be real good at times but the player pool is limited, surprising for such a big city, so not surprising that some of the good regs are looking for greener pastures. And a lot of the non-pros who make the Talking Stick game worth it are snowbirds I think, which means the games dry up in the hot weather. If you do come to Tucson PM me please - you can come over to the house for some pre or post game refreshments.

I saw a movie this afternoon - "Jiro Dreams of Sushi" about probably the most famous sushi chef in Japan. My wife pretty much dragged me there - I thought it would be boring at best. But it was really inspiring for me - all about someone who's in his 80s and still dedicated to continuous improvement even though he's at the pinnacle. A lot of good lessons for those of us who always are trying to get better at poker no matter how long we have played.

Sorry about the derail regarding "Jiro" - that message was meant for another forum - although I still recommend it for anyone who might be interested.

lol...figured it was a foul ball, as a further derail in the same direction, I heard David Amramon on a radio program a few nights ago...a composer/musician in his eighties whom I also found very inspiring...oh, and thanks for the story DGAF, usually I'd just lurk and say nothing 8)

I have a pretty weird memory. I can't remember anything I'm supposed to, but I can remember the 2 significant hands you and I played prob 4 years ago now. The first one I was pretty sure you had A high so I raise/floated the flop with like 9 high. I fully expected you to check/fold turn, but when you led I had to fold because spr got too small and I had reached my spew limit vs an unknown. The second hand I was pretty sure you had aces up and that you couldn't fold to my trips so I went for stacks. You made a good fold on the river though and got somewhat lucky that I couldn't see your 100 chips (making my shove too big).

Pretty sure you were in the 1 seat, taking a shot, and I was in the 7 seat- taking shots . Anyways, I've always found it weird that I can remember old trivial hands so clearly, but i can't remember names, birthdays, etc. Having said all that, I do remember you being pretty chill, so I hope you are doing well.

My wsop plans are up in the air- got a lot of stuff going on this summer. Gl.

Also, no worries about derails at all- as long as they are positive. I watch movies all the time (it's my favorite brain drain), and I appreciate a good review/recommendation just as much as the next guy. I went to the dictator tonight and thought it was whatever- wish I tried Chernobyl instead.

Lol yea I remember both those hands also... I was taking a shot back in the day and got pwned pretty hard by you i felt lol u always had nutters... but anyways man just got back from playing at the rio 5/10 and the action is pretty good with like 8 games going at peak hours so just giving u the inside scoop on that if u ever diced to come out. Gl man

I just stumbled on this thread and decided to read the whole thing. Great stuff. I have played only a little with DGAF and it is very interesting. I knew exactly what was going on but there were so many times that you just can't do **** about it. I have a few counter strategies that I won't be sharing with the world but I am hopeful I don't have to start playing every day with you DGAF as that means I can no longer win or play online and having to adjust to 30 hands/hr might make me suicidal.

Since you recall hands so well, do you know recall that hand where you donked for like pot on the river with the board something like K234A? I think I had JJ and the action was very strange but I said "wow, if you can bluff here you deserve it" and mucked. I think every hand we ever played that is what happened. I was dying to make more than one pair once vs you but I don't think it ever happened except maybe once I flopped trips in the 10/20 on QQJ or something and you made a nice fold.

"...made a nice fold"
(if you consider folding 97, a nice fold, then yeah )

Surfdoc, what's up man? I hope all is well with you and yours...

The hand in question seems kind of familiar, but without a more detailed hh I don't even want to speculate as to what I might have had. That's a rough board for JJ though lol. You've seen me at some of my spewier moments ever (day 2 of some really brutal poker benders, etc) so it's possible you were good, but I doubt it. I'm usually only a total monkey whilst in position... Unless we were playing red chips, then anything is possible/likely I suppose.

As far as making more than one pair- that **** is hard to do in live poker! Also, I don't remember us battling too much when were in the same games. As you stated, you always seemed kinda card dead, and visibly frustrated because you knew I was incredibly wide at all times and you wanted to go to war but the dealers never let you.

As far as grinding live poker goes- I honestly don't think you are a good fit for it over a signif amount of hours. Obv you can beat the game, but you are too refined, too civilized, and too successful in the real world IMO. Live poker is for degen misfit gamblers who for one reason or another just can't make it 9 to 5- it is not for doctors!

Please take ^^^ as a compliment, that's what it was intended to be.

Peace (and run good)

One other thing that is cool about dgaf, is that he's pretty honorable from what I can tell.

For example, a lot of the regs who are good at playing deep stacked at the commerce, will "go north" when they reload, and put down more than 1500, usually with white chips. It doesn't really bother me either way, but I noticed DGAF didn't do this a couple of times, when he clearly could have gotten away with it. It's also something that would give him a greater edge in a pretty substantial way because of his style compared to most players.

Also, the other day when there was an option to sit on my left or right, and still have position on the fishes, he opted to sit on my right. Obviously, I'm not going to go crazy and start wars with him, and he probably views me as fairly tight anyway, but in my eyes, clearly the better seat was to my left. Eventually he moved over, but I felt like in his eyes, both seats were good, and he was doing me a courtesy. I could be totally wrong though, of which I'd look like an idiot, but oh well.

I tend to do that with people that I know are good players, like for example, kwansolo and I will sit exactly across the table from each other, that way neither of us has position.

These kinds of things matter in live games because people notice, whether it's subconscious or otherwise. Not chopping, being easy to get along with, joking around a little bit, not breaking the rules, giving a little nod of respect to the other good regs in the game, etc. All of this stuff helps keep the game more fun for everyone to play, and in the end that matter a lot. If you're a good player, you want to stay in action. The less aggressive and more fun a game is, the more likely it is that recreational players will keep bleeding money and returning, and more likely the other regs won't be gunning for you (this is going to probably happen a lot anyway, but at least it will be less stressful).

dgaf "gets it" more than almost anyway I play with. Its something the old school guys like Chip Reese understood, and it gets totally lost on the new generation of poker players.

Ideally you want the fish on your right and a tight player on your left. Poker is a business for professionals.


"Also, the other day when there was an option to sit on my left or right, and still have position on the fishes, he opted to sit on my right. Obviously, I'm not going to go crazy and start wars with him, and he probably views me as fairly tight anyway, but in my eyes, clearly the better seat was to my left. Eventually he moved over, but I felt like in his eyes, both seats were good, and he was doing me a courtesy. I could be totally wrong though, of which I'd look like an idiot, but oh well."

[QUOTE=novel20;33064688]Ideally you want the fish on your right and a tight player on your left. Poker is a business for professionals.


I have to think it depends on what kind of fish we are talking about. If it's the guy who's always blind raising 10-50 xbb you are better off on his right I think. If he's a loose passive fish it's better if he's on your right where you can isolate. And if it's two good players, my preference is to be across the table.

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he just thinks you're a nit JK i have no idea how he views you.