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Old 07-17-2017, 06:30 AM   #1
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2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

Hi Folks, keen to hear thoughts on a recent hand I played (probably trivial but whatever)

Context; Live 2/5/10 (Straddle) game where most players buy in for the max (1k), a typical good weekend evening game with a mix of recreational players (inc. me) with a range of abilities (loose fish to more 'thinking' TAGs), and a couple of full time grinders.

Game has been running for about 2 hours and Villain likely perceives me as TAG, have chipped up to c$3600 in largely straightforward situations; allowing a SLAG fish to barrel 3 streets into my flopped nuts, squeezing a few times in some obvious spots pre and post flop, and calling 2 flop 4-bet jams for 150-200BB pots w/nutted hands. Have not played with Villain before, but seems to be a competent ex full time grinder who is a 'thinking' LAG. He has twice folded to a 4-bet Jam pre flop after squeezing from late position/button, and perhaps something I should mention is that I gave him a friendly needle after the second fold saying 'You'll surely have to have it next time you do that'?

Anyway, for those of you who haven't gone to sleep yet - on to the hand.

Pre Flop
Hero (3600) Straddles to 10
UTG(800)+2 limps, UTG+3 (1600)limps, Villain (850) makes it 65 OTB. SB (1000) Calls 65, BB(whale with 2000) calls 65, Hero looks down at AJss.

Hero 3bets to 235, folds to Villain who after making some (out of character) obvious weakness tells (I don't think he was aware), tanks 4bets to 650 (leaving 200 behind). Folds back to hero.

Hero?

Especially keen to hear thoughts on his 4bet sizing given his SPR?

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Old 07-17-2017, 07:08 AM   #2
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

squeeze bigger, then calling his jam would have been easier
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:26 AM   #3
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

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squeeze bigger, then calling his jam would have been easier
Yes tbh my plan was to exploit the previous dynamics and try and get him to either flat my 3Bet and probably misplay flop/later streets vs me, or 4b jam and give me a (easyish?)call?

What actually happened was that I...
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:40 PM   #4
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

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squeeze bigger, then calling his jam would have been easier
might as well have just gone all in the first time around if the goal was to make the rest of the hand easier to play
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

^ thats usually what I do when I have a good hand, going all in is underated and makes life easier.
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Old Yesterday, 04:27 PM   #6
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

its rly a pretty easy math problem here... but you gotta look at the stacks first and have an idea about whether your value 3betting and gonna just call off the 4 with rly shallow effective stacks here or just peel. either option is completely fine fwiw
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Old Yesterday, 04:28 PM   #7
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

overall tho its probably a fine fold since most folks arent just 4b without hands that crush you so the fold is fine vs the population
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Old Yesterday, 08:17 PM   #8
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Re: 2/5/10 - 3 Bet from Straddle, facing 4bet.

fold is fine. really shouldve made the decision to call/fold vs 4bet before you 3bet tho.
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