I'm calling she's playing this too fast to be a big flush imo.

For the past year or so I legitimately can't tell if half the responses on this board are people purposefully giving bad advice to make the games softer. Maybe I missed the memo on trolling, are we supposed to be posting the opposite of what we should do now?

Isn't that part of the fun? If the OP can't make a read on which advice is good on a poker forum, how does he expect to beat the game reading people in more difficult spots?

Not snapping is almost a slowroll

TBH I don't think any 'Live Reg" would actively post hands here in the hopes to get solid,genuine advice. I personally think its best to discuss hands with a small handful of people close to you, whom are likely play in the same pool as you do. to ask 2+2 to do anything other than troll is kinda absurd.

as for the hand fwiw FOLD pre, snap call turn.

Why would a "live reg" actively post a hand here then? To get rolled? Oh, ok...

In this forum I think you are absolutely wrong. If you feel this way, please find another forum to participate in.

Lol guys this hand is fine as played, whether to donk flop or not is a slightly interesting question. All those saying fold pre (or anywhere else) are trolling or in need of serious reevaluation.

Speaking of trolling, just the other day at the table I was surprisingly amused by a guy whom I realized I could troll real hard by actually telling the truth. Very strange, I know, but you could really troll him by being honest, mainly based on how absurdly he was interpreting the truth.

If you distort simple facts and fundamentals beyond what's reasonable, you can reduce just about anything to a silly troll. So, FFS, quit trolling, or if you do, make it clever, please!

On the simpler side of things ... are we good (or at least ahead) 37% of the time?

On the much simpler side of things ... what are we hoping for with 45s if not this type of spot?

To complicate things, what is she expecting us to donk with? It's hard to Flop a flush, much less 2 flushes.

I think we see sets and single card flush draws (maybe some straights/2 pr) enough to call it off. GL

Folding the turn would be ridiculous.

It's called a nitroll. It happens in MTTs all the time.

This is the easiest snap of all time, wtf? Please tell me you didn't fold this

Thanks guys.

Results: I snap called and lost


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What did villain have?

IMO this pretty much defines our action.

If we're not willing to put all the money in after flopping a flush, then we should at least fold the flop if not preflop.

So much flawed logic ITT.

We absolutely DO NOT need to stack off every time we flop a flush. There are 2 opponents who probably have every combo of AXss in their range, a lot of suited broadways, and even some mid-suited connectors.

We can flat preflop profitably with the intention of showing down pairs, making 2pair/trips and assessing those relative hand strengths and then doing things, and semibluffing draws/backdoors. And obviously sometimes pure bluffing if/when villain's cap themselves and/or we block things.

Just because you flop a flush does not mean you are required to stack off. Especially a nut low flush.

You should especially not be happy to stack off once you start taking actions which narrows villains POSTFLOP range to very strong things. Any aggressive action from hero is going to start narrowing/strengthing V's range. Leading flop, c/r'ing etc.

When villain raises our lead, he/she is narrowing/strengthening our range and repping REALLY Strong. Obviously, if it's some fish that thinks QQd is the nuts that's one thing. But we have reason to believe V is somewhat competent and YOUR RANGE contains every AXss and tons of suited things. So by the time you get to the turn, the flop has already seen bet/raise/call go into the pot. Ranges are (or ought to be) already quite narrow/strong (stuff like top set/middle set, flushes, and/or nut blockers).

The way this played out it is absolutely not a cooler.

If hero goes c/c flop c/c turn and villain goes big otr and hero c/c's. Then it's more of a cooler since hero's range is perceived/wide weak, and villain can be bluffing and/or value betting thinly. That's NOT what happened here. But as played, we should expect to see better a lot of the time tbh. I'm not saying it's a necessarily a fold, but the consensus to just shovel chips in, while potentially drawing dead, into ranges that contain a lot of hands that have you drawing dead is just wrong.

I know it sounds super nitty, but in a single raised 130bb deep pot multiway, the only really strong hand here is the nut flush. Whoever holds the Ad (whether naked or suited) should be winning this pot really often assuming fold buttons (obviously that's not the case since this thread wants to fistpump in a 5 hi flush). All other flushes are bluff catchers (until someone caps themselves then it's open season).

Sorry forgot to say:

V had 87dd



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You wrote in the OP the flop had the 8d

smh

2 8 in the deck.