Game is 8 handed. It's late night and I just moved to the table from the 5-10. I've been at the table only for maybe 30-40 min before the hand happened. Not sure what people might think of me. I'm Asian and bought in relatively deep so maybe they think I'm aggro/crazy.

Read on Villain is that he's young(24-26), white, from New York. When I got to the table people were getting on him about taking too long for every decision. And they were absolutely justified in their complaining. This kid literally took about 2-3 min for each and every street. Even just to fold his garbage hands PF he would take about 20-30seconds. But if he was in a pot it was automatically gonna be a 10min+ hand.

Anyways given all that we were close to even stacks and deepest at the table. He seems like he's been winning. Very aggressive and looks like he knows what he's doing and capable of anything.

Effective stacks ~$10k.
PF: Fish limps UTG+1, Villain raises to 120, HJ calls, CO calls, Hero calls on the button with TT, blinds fold, fish calls.

Flop(630): T 5 2
Surprisingly everyone checks to Hero who bets 260, fish calls, Villain raises to 860, folds to Hero who takes a few seconds and then calls, fish folds.

Turn(1980): 6
Villain bets 1280, Hero?

carl

Well, first, u dont have the nuts.

Second, being this deep, id just Raise flop to 2,200.

As played, id Raise turn to 3600 and call it off

flopsizing blows. 3bet flop is an option, but when u flat, I like flat turn aswell, especially when you dont have the nuts anymore

If you don't think ihave the nuts in this spot you are insane. Or the biggest scared money nit on earth.

If I chose to flat it sure as hell wouldn't be because I was scared he had 34. What game are you guys playing? This is Holdem not Omaha.

A lot of really good players don't ever 3bet this flop this deep with anything, calling his c/r is very std.

Without any real reads it's difficult to say how wide his c/raising range is on the flop because of the added dynamic of him being in position on the fish, and presumably the perception that the fish just added in some dead money on a harmless flop. It's just hard to say. I'm fairly sure that most people here with a hand like K4cc would just flat, but the really good ones just c/r because you are ridic wide in your cbet steal, and he has position + insane equity vs any c/call that fish makes.

So with all these things said, I think in a vacuum the best play is to just call turn and call all rivers (and jamming the "safe" ones) If he checks river, I just auto jam for an overbet. I think that looks weakest and it keeps him bluffing with the hands that he decided to c/r flop with that we (still) beat.

I'm kinda not a fan of raising turn here. I think it looks too strong vs anyone you dont have history with or an insane read that he never believes anyone. It makes no sense for you to start turning some hands that can't call twice into bluffs because if you raise with air, he's goign to call with his draws a lot of the time because of perceived reverse implied odds, and the onyl way for you to ever look bluffy with a hand that can't call twice is to raise smallish. raise/folding after putting in a standard raise on the turn = lighting money on fire.

It's not that he doesn't think you have the best hand, he's stating you don't have the nuts as the nuts is the best POSSIBLE hand..

I don't mind your line to be fair, I would of just called the turn aswell

Thanks for the thoughts Aggo. Though I don't see myself ever raise folding here. What do you think of a min raise?

Put in 1280.

Not saying to raise fold with TT. Im saying you could raise fold with a hand you floated flop with but can't call again. E.g gutters

But obvious those hands make up such a small part of your range and no one ever would do that with no history because villain reps such a strong range AND he will reverse implied odds you when you do raise small with a hand that can't show down.

Yeah, well I meant nuts meaning that I have way the best hand. Not the best possible hand. But yeah I figured that would go over heads after I posted.

Ahh ic.

Well I just realized that villain raised pre so nothing I wrote makes sense

What rivers if any are you folding to a psb? Are you ever checking back if he checks river?