1. Approximately how many hands until you can trust the PT stats and use them in decision making? Btw, I already know whatever number, its gotta be less than like 300. Cuz I can go a very long time w/out a pocket pair or ace better than A9. Then get like AK twice in a row.

2. Once in a while, a transparent, green "layer" will come over the table, preventing me from clicking anything in the table. Anyone seen this before?

3. So can someone tell me if the following is correct regarding the PT stats:
VP is an overall measure of how loose a player is, both preflop and postflop.
PR is simply a measure of the % of times a player raises preflop (doesn't count limping). And AFq is a postflop aggressiveness measure?

1. Different stats converge at different rates - it's more about how often certain situations come up then a certain number of hands.
VP$IP and PFR will approach their real values pretty quickly - even after 10 hands they will give you a decent idea and by 50 they will be pretty good.
Something like how often a player check-raises on the river will take a lot more hands to converge because you don't have chance to check-raise on the river anywhere near as often.

2. You can sometimes have a grey translucent layer appear but we only really see that for Aero users in Windows 7 and users of the Logitech Setpoint software. Do either of those apply to you?

3. VP$IP is a general measure of looseness, but only applies preflop. It measures how often someone chooses to put money in the pot preflop.
PFR and AFq - correct.
You can see stat definitions in the Statistical Reference Guide.

About that "layer", it just ****ed me over in a hand. I was going to call on the river, Iwas in a fairly big pot w/ two pair. But the layer showed up and prevented me from clicking call. It always comes up at the beginning of a new cash game, and goes away after like 10 seconds. So goddamn annoying.

If you are using Logitech Setpoint upgrading to the most recent version may eliminate this problem for you.

I've been thinking about getting poker tracker to help out my game. I am going to need all the help I can get.

Kraada,

Was this confirmed somewhere? I'm still having the problem in beta version 3.07.2

Do you have a specific question?
We have a Documentation page and a bunch of FAQs and Tutorials.


I'm sure I've seen someone say that it worked with the latest version, but I can't remember for sure. None of the PT3 team have SetPoint to test it directly, though.
Have you tried disabling SetPoint to confirm that it causes the problem?

Sorry, I thought the previous post meant the latest version of PT3 resolved the issue, when I realized he meant the latest version of Setpoint.

Great news, cause I can use Setpoint and PT3 at the same time now! Here is what I'm using:

PT3 version: 3.07.2 beta
Setpoint version: 6.15.6 (Control center version) and 5.10.9 (Driver version)

Glad to hear it!

Pokertracker is an awesome tool. It is not a miracle program that is going to drastically improve your game just by having some stats to look at to base decisions off. It will help track your progress and store your hands for review. Playing fewer tables and paying closer attention to the action and taking notes will help you to improve faster IMO. However you can review sessions later and add notes on a player that can be used if you ever encounter them again using poker tracker. It is well worth the investment but don't think just because you have it you are now going to crush the games you play.