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Disadvantage against Cepheus and GTO-game. Disadvantage against Cepheus and GTO-game.

11-09-2015 , 11:43 AM
Hi folks
I'm intersted in subj. Depends on your experience, how much could be EV of Cepheus bot against regular HU player now for a long distance? Second question is about GTO-like strategy in real game: suppose that player A tries it against player B (both smart guys, B plays ABC HU, you know what I mean)), so, do you think player A has enough edge to beat PS rake? I would be grateful if someone provides info about Cepheuses edge on real players.
ps - sorry for my English.
11-10-2015 , 10:15 AM
It depends on your definition of abc limit holdem. If that means never bluffing, fastplaying strong hands, and check calling with draws, then Cepheus would absolutely crush even under the most extreme rake. If your definition of abc limit holdem is the average player's strategy, then I can't really comment cus I haven't played on Stars in years.

Ev estimation is no easy task preflop, on the flop, or on the turn. Neither is estimating equity realization. However, this doesn't mean that we should give up on these important concepts. It means that we should study these concepts.

Lotsa no limit talk on equity realization, but still relevant:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...ation-1375961/

cliffs: yaqh owns another thread.

or you could go on a graphical mystery tour with me:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...-cbet-1357289/

cliffs: I went on a math trip and drew some graphs of the ev of the 100% cbet. The 0ev threshold has yet to be determined, though I think it's somewhere below the top of the ev curve.
11-13-2015 , 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob148
If your definition of abc limit holdem is the average player's strategy, then I can't really comment cus I haven't played on Stars in years.

Ev estimation is no easy task preflop, on the flop, or on the turn. Neither is estimating equity realization. However, this doesn't mean that we should give up on these important concepts. It means that we should study these concepts.

Lotsa no limit talk on equity realization, but still relevant:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...ation-1375961/

cliffs: yaqh owns another thread.


or you could go on a graphical mystery tour with me:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...-cbet-1357289/

cliffs: I went on a math trip and drew some graphs of the ev of the 100% cbet. The 0ev threshold has yet to be determined, though I think it's somewhere below the top of the ev curve.
I meant average HU bumhunter, yeap. Thanks for the links!

      
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