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01-24-2017 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA
19 January - Deep Run at Wynn/Encore Tourney; Cash Play woes continue

After registering for the Noon tournament at the new Wynn/Encore poker room, I walk back to Venetian for breakfast at the Grand Lux Café, and then return to Encore. I get off to a great start, with JT in the big blind, as five players take a Q98hhx flop. I check, there’s a bet of 150 and a raise to 300. Figuring one of them has the heart draw, I raise to 800, and the raiser calls. Brick turn, I bet 1500, and he calls. Brick river, I bet 2500, and he open-folds T5hh. Not only do I immediately have almost 14K, but I also know this player is willing to limp with suited rags. It becomes obvious as well over the next several hands that he will be an active player. He plays some strong hands trickily, but also doesn’t seem to get away from some clearly vulnerable holdings. He couldn’t get away from A6 despite heavy betting on an AQQ93 board, and he couldn’t find a fold when he raises KT, calls a 3-bet, and calls a T33 flop shove (other player had AA). I use this information to call his raise preflop and call him down every street with 99 on a 742Q2, including his river shove. He meekly turns over A8 for air, and I have over 22K. He rebuys, and after I raise with AK from early position and a woman from Washington state re-raises, he calls from a blind, and I call. Flop is QT4r, and it checks through. He leads on a blank turn, and I call. He checks on the J river, I bet near the pot, and he calls. My Broadway rivered his AQ, and it actually surprised me he was that strong. I’m now at 33K. A short time later I bust a short stack with AJ v A2, and end level 2 at 37K. Nothing of note in level 3, and as the end of level 4 approaches, with three or four limpers in front, I limp T9 on the button. We take a flop of T98 rainbow, and the big blind bets about half the pot. The woman from Washington State calls, and I call. Turn is a 9, and the big blind goes all in, Washington state calls, having more behind. I go all-in and she calls. BB has T7, Washington state has J9, the river bricks, and go to the first break with 63,700 of the roughly 444K in play.

Unfortunately, that will be the high point of my stack. I end level 5 with about 58K, level 6 with about 45K, and go to the second break with 38K. Shortly after, we reach the final table, and my stack of 33K is below the 48K average. With eight players remaining and the blinds at 800/1600 and a 300 ante, it folds to the big stack in the small blind, who raises to 4,500. I look down at AT of spades, and commit my nearly 30K stack. He tank-calls, showing A8 of hearts. Flop is J86, turn is an ace, giving me three additional outs (jacks), but I can’t catch, and am eliminated in 8th place.

The new Wynn/Encore poker room is a gorgeous room. Tables are well-spaced, and the room seemed very well run. It was also nice to meet and play with the wife of a well-known retired baseball player, who was playing on another table. She was a rather solid player (not that my opinion matters), and was a delight to play with, as were all the other players.

After this, I decide to stop at the Venetian on the way back, and play some $1-2, but my bad run continues, and I dust off $261 in about three hours of play, with no real highlights, or lowlights, to detail.

I head to Yard House, and have a delicious Cuban sandwich and a couple of Anchor Steams. I then play a bit of the Texas Hold ‘em table game, dropping about $125 in about two hours, and getting a much needed 20-minute neck, back, and shoulder massage.

Plan for today…play the 10AM freeroll, and then probably go to Caesars for a final $1-2 session.

Thursday Results: Tournament -$140; Cash -$261 in 3 hours
Overall results: Tournament +$750; Cash -$1218 in 29.75 hours.

Haha, my buddy and I were at the final table with you. We were the other two VA guys. He was the shaved head dude who I think stacked you (?) Its possible I was the knucklehead who shipped a bluff into you, cuz i busted twice early, dont really remember how.
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01-24-2017 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA
Central Texas arrives, and immediately 3bets 30 after my open to 12 with AQ. I call, and he continues for 20 on a 9-high flop. I call with a backdoor flush draw. The turn is a low card that gives me the flush draw, and I check-call 30. River is another 9, and we both check, with him showing T9 for trips. Ugh. I really need to figure out how to play against these super loose aggressive players better than I’m doing. Do I 4bet pre with AQ? That seems foolish. Do I check-fold the flop when I miss? That seems weak and exploitable
So, this question intrigued me, because as ive transitioned to 2/5, 3 bets have been by far the biggest change in playstyle for villans, take my suggestions wth a grain of salt, because these are just my initial thoughts when trying to deal with this exact issue wth regularity for the first time.

what to do here is player dependent...a loose aggressive player is not necessarily aggressive with 3 bets. In fact i find a lot of LAG type players are trying to get to the flop cheaply and then the aggression ramps up. Id say AQ is a 4 bet (as a bluff) or fold hand. If you think his range is like... 88+ AQ+ its a fold, but he called you (rather than 3b) with JJ in a previous hand, so if you see him 3 betting a lot, his most likely range is something like QQ+, AK, and some SC 3 bet bluffs. If youre deepstacked enough, You could 4 bet/fold to like 90 or so if you think that will push him off his bluffs, because if he is getting out of line pre, thats probably a wide amount of his range since you have blockers to AK AA QQ. If he is like 100-120 deep you could ship, although without the fear of additional action he may call you with a wider range, but 150-250 range would sort of make awkward sizes for a 4 bet when a 5 bet means youre likely beat, but youve pot committed yourself.

Youd be better off defending against a 3 bet with a call with a suited connector, or even something out of the muck than AQ since you are dominated by AK, and can just represent an ace vs pocket pairs without actually having the ace.
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01-24-2017 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
Haha, my buddy and I were at the final table with you. We were the other two VA guys. He was the shaved head dude who I think stacked you (?) Its possible I was the knucklehead who shipped a bluff into you, cuz i busted twice early, dont really remember how.
The guy that busted me was wearing an old-style, button-down golfer's hat, and was definitely among the group of youngish guys from VA. He may have had a shaved head. The guy that bluffed into me all three post-flop streets was a local who regularly plays there. I talked with a few players from your group early on...seemed like a good group of guys! I hope you all enjoyed the rest of your trip, and that one of you took down the tourney. With Washington state Mom, Dad, and son still on the table when I busted, it was going to be tough.

Last edited by TopGun in VA; 01-24-2017 at 08:22 PM. Reason: additional info
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01-24-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
So, this question intrigued me, because as ive transitioned to 2/5, 3 bets have been by far the biggest change in playstyle for villans, take my suggestions wth a grain of salt, because these are just my initial thoughts when trying to deal with this exact issue wth regularity for the first time.

what to do here is player dependent...a loose aggressive player is not necessarily aggressive with 3 bets. In fact i find a lot of LAG type players are trying to get to the flop cheaply and then the aggression ramps up. Id say AQ is a 4 bet (as a bluff) or fold hand. If you think his range is like... 88+ AQ+ its a fold, but he called you (rather than 3b) with JJ in a previous hand, so if you see him 3 betting a lot, his most likely range is something like QQ+, AK, and some SC 3 bet bluffs. If youre deepstacked enough, You could 4 bet/fold to like 90 or so if you think that will push him off his bluffs, because if he is getting out of line pre, thats probably a wide amount of his range since you have blockers to AK AA QQ. If he is like 100-120 deep you could ship, although without the fear of additional action he may call you with a wider range, but 150-250 range would sort of make awkward sizes for a 4 bet when a 5 bet means youre likely beat, but youve pot committed yourself.

Youd be better off defending against a 3 bet with a call with a suited connector, or even something out of the muck than AQ since you are dominated by AK, and can just represent an ace vs pocket pairs without actually having the ace.
Thanks. This is helpful input. Definitely, I understand and agree with the player-dependent aspect, and I find I apply this to river calling light at $1-2. As for this player, he had a fairly wide three-bet range, and my sense was that his three-bet range was more player-dependent than card-dependent. A reraise with the AQ, given this, was likely warranted.

As for $2-$5, I took a couple of shots early last year, and my bankroll could definitely sustain another shot or two. One shot I just ran terrible, but felt I made good decisions. The other I pretty much broke even. The problem is, my local room typically runs only one or two $2-5 games on Saturdays these days, as more poker options have been opening in the area, and the $1-2 game there has been fairly easily beatable for 12-15 BBs per hour. Maybe the next time I make it to the newer casino which is getting more play, and likely includes less experienced players, I'll give $2-5 another shot.
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01-25-2017 , 04:05 AM
yeah he had a hawaiian shirt type thing on, i asked him if he remembered the hand and he said yeah it was him. The washington family bubbled and double bubbled and only the dad made the money.

WRT 2/5, so I had a very similar winrate to you last year, and I moved up in stakes during the trip and played almost exclusively 2/5 in this trip and i went on a $3500 upswing followed by a $2600 downswing all in a 9 day period, and thats at $500 max buyin at bellagio, so... prepare for variance.... Its not just the double size, its way more aggrssive, so you end up all in far more. Lost aother $800 today at MGM (1/3 though), so yeah, $3400 downswing hurts pretty bad... but still up for the year...

I guess your local casino is Charlestown? yeah id make the drive to MGM for higher stakes. the 1/3 game plays as big as 2/5 but with worse players, i feel pretty happy staying at that game for a while longer.
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02-19-2017 , 03:10 PM
I just found this thread and read the entire thing. Where's the pics???
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02-19-2017 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mattc74
Solo trips are the nuts great read, thank you!
I agree. Do what you want, when you want for as long as you want.
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