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Old 06-18-2010, 11:56 AM   #1
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Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

I've read a lot of horror stories of people having their cash seized by the "authorities" (DEA, etc.) due to the "suspicious" act of carrying a large sum of cash when traveling.

So what's the best way of flying home from Vegas with a large amount of cash (say $10,000 - $30,000) without detection/problems?

And is one supposed to somehow "declare" how much they are traveling with when going through security?


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Old 06-18-2010, 11:58 AM   #2
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

put it in ur pockets/pants/shorts and walk thru, u will be fine
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:19 PM   #3
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

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put it in ur pockets/pants/shorts and walk thru, u will be fine
Don't really know much about this, but from what I've read that is only true if you're an American citizen. Non-US people need to declare everything >10k$.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:53 PM   #4
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

Diamond dealers have been known to ship diamonds via plain old U.S. Mail. It might seem crazy, but you could just mail it to yourself.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:03 PM   #5
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

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honestly, worst idea ever.

if you are that paranoid, open a bank of america account before you come, and deposit the money in your account before you leave vegas.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:27 PM   #6
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

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honestly, worst idea ever.

if you are that paranoid, open a bank of america account before you come, and deposit the money in your account before you leave vegas.
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If I remember correctly, there is a branch right by the Stratosphere and one on Sahara Ave.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:36 PM   #7
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If I remember correctly, there is a branch right by the Stratosphere and one on Sahara Ave.
also one on trop. right by the orleans
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:09 PM   #8
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

really? another thread on this same topic. Put it in your pcoket/carryon bag, get on plane, travel home. If you are carrying 100k, maybe someone might give you some trouble. On a domestic flight you dont declare ANYTHING! The 10k declaration if only for international travel, and even if you declare it they let you bring it through. There is NO RULE about carrying unlimited amounts of cash on an airplane.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:47 PM   #9
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

There may be no "law" against carrying unlimited amounts of cash on an airplane/through an airport, but there ARE many cases of people getting their money seized by DEA agents under "suspicion" that it might be drug money or money from some sort of criminal activity.

The point of my question is: how does a USA citizen flying domestically (i.e Vegas to home city in USA) best avoid this risk with a large sum of cash when traveling by air?
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:19 PM   #10
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

domestic you don't have much to worry about , split it up in couple of bundles, two or three pockets and wallets is fine. And take all metal out when going through security, so it wont beep and your fine. Never have had problem nor friends either.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:11 PM   #11
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

I'm sure if there are "many" cases you can cite just one that occurred whilst flying in or out of LAS. As a blackjack player and now a poker player for 15 years, part of that time on a large blackjack team, I can assure that the DEA is not in the habit of seizing large sums of cash going in or out of LAS. I suspect the DEA would be run out of the state of Nevada, and perhaps out of several other gambling states such as Mississippi, on a rail, if they tried such a thing. I do know many people who had their $$$ seized by state police whilst driving on various slim pretexts. But, please, don't make up your own facts. Believe it or not, the federal authorities are well aware that -- gasp! -- gambling occurs in Las Vegas. The "risk" you cite appears to be invented.

When leaving/entering the U.S. you are requested to file a short form declaring the cash if it's more than the equivalent of U.S. $10,000 -- and, no, customs doesn't seize the cash either. They just ask you idiotic questions about how they, too, can become an international gambler.

I am less concerned about DEA and more concerned about light-fingered TSA agents or other passengers. Once, I had a TSA agent try to send me through the X-ray ahead of my bag on some slim pretext, and I had to refuse politely but firmly. "This is Las Vegas, and I won some money. I need to see my bag go into the machine before I step through." He relented. Another time, I had to stop a thief from picking up my bag, on the pretense that it was hers, when I came out the other side of the X-ray. These are real concerns that actually happen. The DEA deciding that your piddly few tens of thousands is worth their time, no. A local or state police department will think that's a lot of money, so it's dangerous to drive with such sums. But to the federal authorities? It's chicken feed. But, as others say, if you're truly worried, there's the Wells Fargo and the BOA.





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There may be no "law" against carrying unlimited amounts of cash on an airplane/through an airport, but there ARE many cases of people getting their money seized by DEA agents under "suspicion" that it might be drug money or money from some sort of criminal activity.

The point of my question is: how does a USA citizen flying domestically (i.e Vegas to home city in USA) best avoid this risk with a large sum of cash when traveling by air?

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Old 06-18-2010, 09:19 PM   #12
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

Just put it in your pocket and go through security. Make sure to take off all metals (don't forget the belt) so you don't beep and end up getting frisked. I've gone through with several thousand before without incident. I think it is pretty common for people to carry several grand with them to and from Vegas. If people didn't bring money with them to Vegas, this town wouldn't be around anymore.

If you have over $100K in cash, that might raise some questions. Around $10K shouldn't be an issue. Just make sure you are dressed like you have $10K cash on you.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:34 PM   #13
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

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I'm sure if there are "many" cases you can cite just one that occurred whilst flying in or out of LAS. As a blackjack player and now a poker player for 15 years, part of that time on a large blackjack team, I can assure that the DEA is not in the habit of seizing large sums of cash going in or out of LAS. I suspect the DEA would be run out of the state of Nevada, and perhaps out of several other gambling states such as Mississippi, on a rail, if they tried such a thing. I do know many people who had their $$$ seized by state police whilst driving on various slim pretexts. But, please, don't make up your own facts. Believe it or not, the federal authorities are well aware that -- gasp! -- gambling occurs in Las Vegas. The "risk" you cite appears to be invented.
Cash seizure by the authorities in the USA is a real issue, and thus a real threat. Here's a two plus two thread with a lot of post and some interesting links:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...velers-398198/
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:39 PM   #14
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

If I just walk through security with the money in my pocket or in a money belt (under my clothes) and don't set off the metal detectors, will TSA/security not even know I have the cash on me or will the xray machines they use show I've got a brick of cash in my money belt/pocket?
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:53 AM   #15
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

im quite sure that the dea doesnt just hang out at airports. if you were going to get hassled by anyone it would be the TSA and you can carry however much money you feel like it. its dumb to do that but u can. just open a bank account or leave it in a box in vegas is you go often
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:27 AM   #16
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Fwiw you don't have to capitalize lot in the title for 10-30
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:57 AM   #17
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

If this is poker winnings you should get a box at one of the casinos or open a bank account down there. If it's gambling winnings have them write you a check.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:50 AM   #18
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

Yea I've walked through security with 50k before no prob and wasn't even going to Vegas...just invest in a few rubber bands and jeans with pockets.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:36 PM   #19
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

Put in socks, and by your crotch. The screeners won't notice 90% of the time. If they do you take it out and say "did not want this going thru the mag". They will let you go through no problem. You can carry any amount of cash as long as you are flying domestic. I do LAX to LV all the time with no worries


Edit: 10-30k? no problem just in socks man. That is a total non issue
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:18 PM   #20
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Re: Safest way to fly home from Vegas with a LOT o cash without detection/seizure by DEA, etc?

http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/2...-poker-player/

http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/02/detained-by-tsa/

The first link is about David Peat, which is the same guy who started the 2+2 thread. He booked a last-minute plane ticket, got flagged, and then got robbed by the federal government. Yeah, the DEA doesn't hang out at the airport, but they are a phone call away. They took Peat's money AND his Rolex. The other link is about a Ron Paul campaign employee who had a cash box of $4700, and the TSA detained him for hours. He wouldn't cooperate until the TSA told him under what law they had the right to detain and question him...and the TSA couldn't even cite the law. IIRC they did take his money.

Yes, you are *supposed* to be able to carry cash. But asset forfeiture laws can allow TSA, DEA, police, or whomever to seize your money...then you have to show proof of where it came from. Somehow, in their f'ed up mind, nobody would be carrying around more than $1000 unless they were going to buy drugs or had sold drugs.

OP - don't know what to tell you. You are not *required* to declare how much money you are flying with. But if you get some "additional screening" love from the TSA, they will probably find it. Maybe deposit your money at a bank, or maybe the casino will write you a check. Maybe you could wire the money to your own account. FWIW I'd be a little paranoid too.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:06 PM   #21
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Go to the bank and buy cashiers checks...Go to Walmart buy money orders.. it isn't rocket science
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:54 PM   #22
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In your pocket will be fine. If you're paranoid, get a check or send a wire instead of traveling with cash. Definitely don't put 30k in cash in an envelope and drop it in the mail. That's one of the worst pieces of advice I've ever seen on 2p2.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:39 PM   #23
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Diamond dealers have been known to ship diamonds via plain old U.S. Mail. It might seem crazy, but you could just mail it to yourself.
Not such a bad idea. U.S. Registered Mail can be insured for $25,000 -- just declare that you are sending $25,000 in currency -- and at every step your sealed brown manila envelope is signed for, locked up and guarded by federal law enforcement agents, and legally protected from warrantless search or seizure.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:28 AM   #24
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Not such a bad idea. U.S. Registered Mail can be insured for $25,000 -- just declare that you are sending $25,000 in currency -- and at every step your sealed brown manila envelope is signed for, locked up and guarded by federal law enforcement agents, and legally protected from warrantless search or seizure.
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It'll cost approximately $52 to send $25K insured through registered domestic mail. Not exactly the cheapest alternative, but yes, it's an option.
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flown out of vegas with a lot of money like 50 times never had anything remotely close to an issue
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