High limit slots still count right?

I assume those are restrictions on where you can lose the money which is pretty silly.

It seems to me that a well-timed visitor could do this is under a week.

Sign up on 4/30, lose. Get 2nd rebate on 5/3... No?

So basically you can play $1 VP or lower denom or play slot machines. Definitely a big difference in the promo now.

This is my guess too. Once you get the freeplay I'm sure its just like any other promo money and you can use it anywhere.

If that is the case, the promo is still great. You just have to go for your big win on the slots. Even some penny slots let you bet up to $6-$8 a spin, so you don't even really need high limit machines.

Since so many games are now banned, I think it is safe to say it lasted 2 days. I guess I would have won my bet.

I wonder if there were people on the floor at 10am when the rules got changed playing the high denominations that are now screwed. Hopefully they would make that right if there were.

The best way to do this is to play as high denom as possible. Try to either lose the $1K as quickly as possible or win something big before going busto.

Think about it, you only benefit from the promo if you lose. If you don't lose, you don't get the freeplay. AMIRITE?

I just asked. Confirmed true, assuming the promo runs through 4/30.

Also, to those who were asking, the ineligible machines are ineligible for both ends of the promo, according to the woman I asked. I'm not sure if she knows what she's talking about, but that's what I was told.

When Riviera would send me free play I would play them on the 9/6 (now 8/5) JOB that have 1/2/5 denominations in front of the host office. The only way this is true is if there is a special free play for this promotion. Unless Riviera upgraded their archaic free play system recently, I cannot imagine there is a way to distinguish between the two. I guess it is possible they could just ban all free play on these machines.

There are rarely any abnormal restrictions on the freeplay itself.

What machines can be used for losing the money differs from casino to casino. Most have few(and easy to follow) restrictions. Others it takes a slot tech to determine whether you can use the machine or not.

They basically killed the promo or at least made the EV much much worse. There may be high limit slots where it is still a great promo, but I'm weary of things I can't easily quantify.

If they were allowing video roulette yesterday someone should be fired.
Its excusable at the cosmo since its only for $100, but you can't give every AP that walks through the door ~$800.

I'm assuming you guys are correct about the freeplay. She didn't seem to really want to think about my question beyond "It's right there on the sign."

This promo has made me never want to do more business with Riviera, btw (not that they necessarily want me, I know). So congratulations to them on that. This is not how you launch a promo.

The guy told us yesterday that you could not do the promo on certain machines, he said there were signs on the ones you couldn't play and have it count toward a loss. He said it included the video roulette, craps and video blackjack. It looks like today they added all VP from $2 denom and up and all multi play VP.

At least they are allowing people to do the promo if they've already had a players card albeit you have to have been inactive for 2 years or more.

I think I'll try it today. I was thinking of loopholes where they could get me, and I would lose everything, but I think as long as you play through your $1k at $1 VP or less (or slots), you're OK.

Once you get the first half of your freeplay, you have to use it that day right? Then the 2nd half comes on the 3rd? Is there any smart reason to use the freeplay on a higher denom machine? You could essentially burn through your $500 freeplay at $5 VP with nothing to show for it but some mild degen depression.

Pretty sure to do not have to use the freeplay on the same day; you just have to claim it on the same day. Please double check before taking my word for it.

Oh yeah, and I dislike being rude and cynical, but these $9 hour, usually mildly proficient English speaking employees don't know or care enough to be helpful to people like us. Most likely they are discouraged from giving out too much information; but moreover, they lack the drive to communicate with co-workers and superiors to uncover knowledge which would perpetuate better customer service.

In conclusion they are $9 employees. People put waaaaay too much stock in them and take them too seriously.

This is an ongoing theme I've spent a lot of time thinking about as I've gotten older. It's like the annoying guy at the bank in front of you who starts talking with the teller about the bank's earnings, P/E ratio, target stock price, and whether or not the third ranked member on the board of directors made the right decision to resign.

Lol you think I'm joking or trolling? Seriously, the 50 year-old "maintenance" lady sweeping under your feet at the Venetian does not care about your opinion of Sheldon Adelson, nor does she even know who he is.

I hear you. There's nothing we can do about those employees.

But I hope that Noah knows why this is wrong. The stipulations of the promo changed between the time when I left my house and when I arrived at Riviera, which might have been okay except that Noah said:

This would lead any reasonable person to believe that he is confident enough in the initial terms of his promotion that the damn thing would last longer than a day in its original form. I mean, obviously it wasn't such a genius or well thought-out plan if you have to cut back on some major draws by Day 2.

It's a really ****ty thing to act so cocky about how great your promo is, to advertise the largest slot rebate in town as if it's no big thing, and then to tighten the restrictions literally while patrons are driving to the casino with purpose of signing up for the promo.

That's not how you treat potential new customers. Sorry if anyone disagrees or thinks it's an overreaction. I just thought his comment came off as smug in retrospect.