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07-18-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Did you ever consider a different career path? Maybe it would make you more happy or at least less depressed if you had a job that provided something that's a different kind of meaningful to society?
For sure. I'm just having no luck getting anything and I need money to survive. I don't imagine loving poker in Vegas, but I do think the problem is compounded here in the bay area, where being a poker player really isolates you from society. And that's probably the worst aspect about playing poker for a living (for me). Even worse than variance.
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07-19-2017 , 05:23 AM
letsgoooo fellow dutchie!

2/5 and 5/10 at Venetian was super soft during WSOP so hopefully you will find the same.
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07-22-2017 , 07:09 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up and the comments, all.

I was wondering if I should play cash solely or also play some tournaments. Because I like tournaments and there will be a series running in the Venetian, I think I will play a couple of the 200 to 340 buy-in tournaments. The ones that last 2 days. This way I can play tournaments on the more slower days; Tuesday and Wednesday. And have a day off on Monday. In the weekends I will play cash.

The comments about the bankroll and the cap games made me think. It will probably be a good idea to buy-in for 'only' $500 in the 2/5 games at first. This lowers the change to loose too much too soon and gives me some time to get used and feel comfortable.

It is actually the second time I will be in Vegas. The first time was 5 years ago, in November:

I didn't play that much poker that week, but managed to win about $600 in the first 6 days of the trip. On day 7 I was a little hangover from drinking lots of Hollands most famous export product, Heineken, the day before. I thought it shouldnt matter. I bought in for $600 in the 1/3 game at Wynn. About an hour in I get dealt pocket Qs in the cutoff. A tight guy raises from early position. I 3-bet, everyone else folds. The guy 4-bets. Then it happened. I know I'm beat but still shove... Of course the guy has Aces. Aces hold. The next hand I bluff my remaining $120 off with QT offsuit.

I will not drink alcohol while playing this time. Nor will I play the day after some serious drinking.
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07-23-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dhwpersons

I will not drink alcohol while playing this time. Nor will I play the day after some serious drinking.
Now that's no way to enjoy Vegas.
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07-23-2017 , 08:41 PM
[QUOTE=Phat Mack;52536943]I don't know if it's possible to beat 1-3 in Vegas--I haven't looked at their rake structures in several years.
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I don't think the rake matters so much here....table selection and nut peddling does.
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07-23-2017 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Beasting
grunch

posted this in another thread, which was a dead end. hoping for a better outcome itt lol.
been an online grinder for several years. sick of the lifestyle. i've never really grinded live though. i've played a lot of live in bay area casinos, but generally can only stand up to 4 hours of playing at a time. i don't like the way i feel when i play much longer than that. it gets depressing. maybe it's a bay area thing. i might be more stimulated about live poker in vegas where poker isn't an obscure "job" there, and grinders could fit in better. is there anyone who has grinded live in vegas, the bay area, and online, that could weigh in and discuss which you prefered and why?
thanks.
Vegas having more grinders would be a bad thing, not a good thing. You'll make less money which could leave you feeling more depressed.
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07-26-2017 , 10:43 PM
What, you coming from EU with 7K roll for getting involved for one month in 2/5NL and 5/10NL?

man ..., wtf? ...., You need all the good luck in the universe. Do you think we just give our money away here in the US and especially Vegas. We will play you so hard that you start hating poker. You may have some good eccentric characters there in EU playing poker but here in Vegas/US this is our national card game. You got to be good and lucky at the same time.

Bring as much money as you can afford to lose. The more the better.
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07-26-2017 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
What, you coming from EU with 7K roll for getting involved for one month in 2/5NL and 5/10NL?

man ..., wtf? ...., You need all the good luck in the universe. Do you think we just give our money away here in the US and especially Vegas. We will play you so hard that you start hating poker. You may have some good eccentric characters there in EU playing poker but here in Vegas/US this is our national card game.
Is this Mr. Wongs new account? "We will play you so hard" made me seriously laugh.
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07-27-2017 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
What, you coming from EU with 7K roll for getting involved for one month in 2/5NL and 5/10NL?

man ..., wtf? ...., You need all the good luck in the universe. Do you think we just give our money away here in the US and especially Vegas. We will play you so hard that you start hating poker. You may have some good eccentric characters there in EU playing poker but here in Vegas/US this is our national card game. You got to be good and lucky at the same time.

Bring as much money as you can afford to lose. The more the better.
Let's play 10/20NL heads up so I can quadruple my bankroll the first day.
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07-27-2017 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
What, you coming from EU with 7K roll for getting involved for one month in 2/5NL and 5/10NL?

man ..., wtf? ...., You need all the good luck in the universe. Do you think we just give our money away here in the US and especially Vegas. We will play you so hard that you start hating poker. You may have some good eccentric characters there in EU playing poker but here in Vegas/US this is our national card game. You got to be good and lucky at the same time.

Bring as much money as you can afford to lose. The more the better.
You're playing yourself, so hard
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07-27-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dhwpersons
Let's play 10/20NL heads up so I can quadruple my bankroll the first day.
Bringing $7K for 2/5 and occasional 5/10 means you're somewhat strapped for cash, throwing an offer for 10/20 NLHU shows the lack of discipline.. That's 3 buyins for you and you're busto. If he accepts, then what

Anyways, giving you the benefit of the doubt, and at a decently crushing hourly of $40/hour at 2/5. You will need to play 62.5 hours of poker every week to hit your $10K goal. That leaves almost no time to actually enjoy vegas.

Idk if you don't have card rooms out there or what not, but Vegas is nothing special for 2/5 games. It's all over the place. It might be a serious mistake for you to come here to play.

Travel expense + Vegas expense will be close to $3500 minimum

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07-27-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dhwpersons
Let's play 10/20NL heads up so I can quadruple my bankroll the first day.
You guys in EU are so out of poker that's a joke. Flying 10 hours from the backwoods of the back of EU to Vegas with 7K and calling Mama to send more.... haha!

EU was not designed for poker thinking. You guys never be able to think like us the Americans. We invented the game, we refine it and we are the masters of it. We build America on poker thinking. The entire US system is similar with poker strategy. And that's a fact Jack, and nobody can take that away from us ..., wtf!

Bring it on.. !
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07-27-2017 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
That leaves almost no time to actually enjoy vegas.
There's not that much to enjoy anyway unless you are into partying, hookers, blow and fine dining.
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Originally Posted by outdonked
You guys never be able to think like us the Americans.
His English is already better than yours.
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07-27-2017 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
There's not that much to enjoy anyway unless you are into partying, hookers, blow and fine dining.
Partying and fine dining encompasses much of life. Like what most people do, in most cities. With all the different venues, for night clubs and day time pool parties, one should fully enjoy that aspect while in Vegas.
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07-28-2017 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
There's not that much to enjoy anyway unless you are into partying, hookers, blow and fine dining.
That's exactly what i'm into.
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07-28-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ShawnIndy
That's exactly what i'm into.
Only advice I can tell you, is make sure the agreements are established before bringing one home. Otherwise you might find yourself with a 300% markup. [Not from my personal experience].
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07-28-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
*Twaddling*
Usually I am easily annoyed by illiteracy, but I have to admit that it adds something special to your posts. Makes them even more enjoyable to read. Pretty much how I picture the guys from Duck Dynasty competing at a spelling bee.
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That's exactly what i'm into.
I am sure a lot of us are that way. Doing exactly that for 6 weeks in the summer was one of my yearly highlights until a couple of years ago. But if you are not that kind of person, Vegas doesn't offer that much besides gambling.
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07-28-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Usually I am easily annoyed by illiteracy, but I have to admit that it adds something special to your posts. Makes them even more enjoyable to read. Pretty much how I picture the guys from Duck Dynasty competing at a spelling bee.
Phil Robertson went to college on a football (real football, not soccer) scholarship, has a Masters degree, wrote a book, and built businesses worth hundreds of millions of dollars. But I'm sure all that pales in comparison to your accomplishments.
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07-28-2017 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
real football, not soccer
Real football is the one where people use their feet to play.
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07-28-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Real football is the one where people use their feet to play.
True; regardless of one's opinion on the two sports, it can't be argued that soccer has been around longer and the name "football" definitely applies more to it than it does to gridiron.
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07-29-2017 , 12:14 AM
What is your non poker plans? Where are you staying, getting around, planning to party etc?
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07-29-2017 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fitzroyhip
What is your non poker plans? Where are you staying, getting around, planning to party etc?
The first week I have rented an AirBnB not far from the strip. Travelling to and away from the strip will be using public transport or Uber.

A friend is coming over the second week. That week will have more a sightseeing and drinking then a poker theme. We also would like to see some of the national parks.

After this week I have no accommodation arranged yet. I like to be social and like to party now and then. I will see how that goes, it will depend on people I meet and how the poker is going. I like to see the West Coast, San Francisco and Los Angeles. So, I'm planning to rent a car for some days and do a small road trip. Not sure when, I'll see.
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08-07-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
Anyways, giving you the benefit of the doubt, and at a decently crushing hourly of $40/hour at 2/5. You will need to play 62.5 hours of poker every week to hit your $10K goal. That leaves almost no time to actually enjoy vegas.

Idk if you don't have card rooms out there or what not, but Vegas is nothing special for 2/5 games. It's all over the place. It might be a serious mistake for you to come here to play.

Travel expense + Vegas expense will be close to $3500 minimum
Holland Casino is the only one allowed to offer poker in the Netherlands. They rake 10% up to 10. Say this will cost a player $20 on average per hour. Compared to the 10% up to 5 = $10 average per hour in Vegas. There's no $2/hr comp here. This makes playing live poker in the Netherlands $12 more expensive each hour compared to Vegas. Say I will play 200 hours in Vegas. That's $2400 of savings on rake alone.

Expenses will be around $60 a day. Adding $550 for the plane ticket gives expenses of $2350 for the month. That makes a $50 profit for travelling to Vegas after having all expenses covered :-)

I surely make time to enjoy Vegas. I don't need to win a certain amount of money, the main reason is the mental challenge and having a good time.

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08-12-2017 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
LOL, I said it's easy to lose 10 buy-ins in a row. You aren't playing 20 days, you're not even playing a full weekend. My record is 18 buy-ins in a row over a full weekend. Never once made a pair or better with the cards in my hand.

If you don't make hands, you won't win in Vegas low-stakes games.
How often do you lose 10BIs in a row? I assume you play full time. If it happens once a month well yeah sure 7k is probably under rolled for one month of $2/5 play in Vegas. Once a year, he'll probably be ok. If he's willing to drop down after losing $3500, he should be ok no matter what.
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08-14-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dhwpersons
Holland Casino is the only one allowed to offer poker in the Netherlands. They rake 10% up to 10. Say this will cost a player $20 on average per hour. Compared to the 10% up to 5 = $10 average per hour in Vegas. There's no $2/hr comp here. This makes playing live poker in the Netherlands $12 more expensive each hour compared to Vegas. Say I will play 200 hours in Vegas. That's $2400 of savings on rake alone.

Expenses will be around $60 a day. Adding $550 for the plane ticket gives expenses of $2350 for the month. That makes a $50 profit for travelling to Vegas after having all expenses covered :-)

I surely make time to enjoy Vegas. I don't need to win a certain amount of money, the main reason is the mental challenge and having a good time.


Lol I used to make those calculations as well. When you do it with the 20 euro at the 2/4 it's even better. With the current usd/euro exchange rates those stakes are about the same. Good luck. Looking forward for updates on this trip. My advice: start at 1/2 the first day. When you run bad it won't hurt as bad and when you win you can move up playing with the profit.

Where do you play in the netherlands?
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