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Old 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM   #61
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Vegas is a young person's town. 40 is way over the hill. 40 is an old geezer in Vegas. You might find a part-time job at a quick-stop. $8.25/hr. In case you haven't been paying attention, the unemployment lines are overflowing in Vegas.

Vegas is VERY expensive. If you don't run bad in the $1/$2 games and actually manage to break even, you might last two months with that mighty bankroll.

Doesn't having a net equity of 4K at age 40 tell you something about how the world perceives you?
LOL at this whole post.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:53 PM   #62
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OP, Vegas has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Counting on getting a dealer job in a town full of unemployed and underemployed dealers is not a good idea. Probably easier to find a burger-flipper job, or retail like Target, etc that has benefits for part-timers.

On minimizing your cost driving cross-country, map out your stops, find Motel 6 (or whatever) on your route and reserve before you leave. They sometimes give discounts, and you won't have the unpleasant surprise of driving up to sold-out motels. You can probably also find official rest stops and spend every other night in one. This should be a lot cheaper than flying and shipping your car, plus you can pack a lot more crap with you than you can bring on a plane.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:17 PM   #63
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Do you have good credit? If you do, then I suggest that you start ordering a few credit cards. If you can get up to 20K to 30K in available credit before you bust, then you will have a decent cushion if needed.

If you end up going down in flames, then I suggest maxing the cards out with cash advances, waiting 4-5 months, then filing bankruptcy. Take your next shot at that point with whatever you do, and at least you have a nest egg.

The bankruptcy part is optional. But if you get the cards now with the intent of building a cushion, then that is all above board. Using the credit for any reason is also above board. Stashing the cash in a shoebox and filing BK is not above board, but you only live once, and if you generally play fair in life, then getting as much credit as possible from the scamming banks is not the worst thing you could do.[/QUOTE]

Thats degenin on a new level,and would not consider!!
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:01 PM   #64
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I do have good credit and I have a few credit cards i can draw from in a pinch.

I think there are lots of employment options and I don't have to make that much from it so i am not worried. I give a killer interview and I have been a hiring manager before so I know what they want to hear
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:55 PM   #65
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Polprof, hows the time frame looking? Do you know when you'll starting this journey?
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:11 PM   #66
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Polprof, hows the time frame looking? Do you know when you'll starting this journey?
Mid September is the latest time frame. Possibly a week or two sooner.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:51 PM   #67
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OP, Vegas has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation.
OP already addressed this, but just to spell it out:

Unemployment rates do generally not apply to presentable 25 - 40 year old caucasian men with advanced university degrees and reasonable work experience. No matter how high they (the UI rates) are in any given region.

Part of it is "knowing how to", part the fact that the US labor market rely heavily on self-proliferating social and racial stereotyping. Most entrepreneurs, business owners, and managers are educated middleaged caucasian men; in employment situations they tend to give preference to anybody who look, talk, and act like themself.
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OP already addressed this, but just to spell it out:

Unemployment rates do generally not apply to presentable 25 - 40 year old caucasian men with advanced university degrees and reasonable work experience. No matter how high they (the UI rates) are in any given region.

Part of it is "knowing how to", part the fact that the US labor market rely heavily on self-proliferating social and racial stereotyping. Most entrepreneurs, business owners, and managers are educated middleaged caucasian men; in employment situations they tend to give preference to anybody who look, talk, and act like themself.
This. Couldn't agree more. Not saying I'll get just any job I want but I have a leg up on the 22 year old just out of college with no experience and no interview skills. Those skills are not usually learned in a classroom.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:44 AM   #69
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So I am thinking of becoming a dealer (not necessarily poker) in order to make ends meet at first. There are a few schools I have been in contact with and the fees seem reasonable. I'm thinking craps and blackjack. Craps dealers are hard to get apparently. Thoughts ?
I am 45 and basically getting everything in order to do the same thing. You might look into becoming a pool cleaner. Pick up a route with say 20 pools (2 or 3 days work) and you should be able to pay all your life bills, food, etc. Here in Dallas pay is usually in $15 per pool/per week. So $1200/month for a few days work per week. Another perk is some good exercise.

Good luck to you in everything you do.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:07 PM   #70
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OP already addressed this, but just to spell it out:

Unemployment rates do generally not apply to presentable 25 - 40 year old caucasian men with advanced university degrees and reasonable work experience. No matter how high they (the UI rates) are in any given region.

Part of it is "knowing how to", part the fact that the US labor market rely heavily on self-proliferating social and racial stereotyping. Most entrepreneurs, business owners, and managers are educated middleaged caucasian men; in employment situations they tend to give preference to anybody who look, talk, and act like themself.
Wat? OP wants to be a dealer. Who cares what kind of degrees a dealer has? As for "being presentable" and "knowing how to interview", his competition is laid off dealers. And there are plenty of them. They are both of the above, and more, because they have work experience. OP is at a big disadvantage to people with work experience. Do you guys seriously think all the unemployed in Vegas are the tunnel people?
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:00 PM   #71
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I'm an old guy wanting to give something like this a shot.

Maybe we should all get together and rent a nice house and go all old school on Vegas. Show the youngins how it's done.
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I'm an old guy wanting to give something like this a shot.

Maybe we should all get together and rent a nice house and go all old school on Vegas. Show the youngins how it's done.
I've been in contact with a few other old timers and have kicked around the idea of forming a study/support group for all of us. Might be fun.
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Wat? OP wants to be a dealer. Who cares what kind of degrees a dealer has? As for "being presentable" and "knowing how to interview", his competition is laid off dealers. And there are plenty of them. They are both of the above, and more, because they have work experience. OP is at a big disadvantage to people with work experience. Do you guys seriously think all the unemployed in Vegas are the tunnel people?
I am considering a dealer as one option but it's not my only option. Yes I am aware there is high unemployment in Vegas. I would not agree I am at a disadvantage to people with work experience in all cases. It depends on the opportunity and a myriad of other factors.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:35 AM   #74
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OP will likely either fail or hate life after this, but I wish him good luck.
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Do you guys seriously think all the unemployed in Vegas are the tunnel people?
DOL's UI rates comparing 2010 and 2011 over level of ed, gender, and ethnicity.

As can be seen the 2011 national UI rate for caucasian workers with BA+ ed level is 3.9% (close to base mobility level), compared to the general population holding less than a high school diploma 14.1% and with high school diploma 9.4%.

These are national averages, but I have seen no reasons to believe the same distribution will not be reflected among Nevada residents.

A comparison of the educational level in Nevada where close to 50% of 25+ yo hold high school diplomas or less to the general US population with 43% in at same educational category could provide a part of the explanation for the high UI level in Nevada.

There's really nothing new to the idea, that higher education means higher employment and better economy on county, state, regional, and national level. And while statististics do not tell stories about individuals, they are excellent predictors of individuals' chances of faring well, no different from poker odds.
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