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Old 08-03-2012, 04:52 PM   #196
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Re: My foray into semi-degeneracy: 11 Days in Vegas (TLDR TR)

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She explains to me that if I get one set on one ticket, then "let the machine think," on the second ticket the numbers will be "more different." She shows me my own ticket with the two sets of wildly scattered quick pick numbers, but she insists that they are in some way closer together than if I'd had her do it on two different slips of paper.

I kid you not when I say that, on my way out, she commented that its rigged anyway because people in Florida never win the jackpot.
holy **** people are stupid LOL

pretty sure if i hated life and needed money id just play live poker all day because it will never become unprofitable with people like this spawning more children
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #197
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Just read the thread from start to finish. Its been a great read and am looking forward to reading about how you get on this time round. I hope you rungood and make a profit again, all the best.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:18 PM   #198
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holy **** people are stupid LOL

pretty sure if i hated life and needed money id just play live poker all day because it will never become unprofitable with people like this spawning more children

I toyed with concluding "I weep for the future."

Consider it a late edit.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:39 PM   #199
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Good to see you writing another one of these!!
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:10 PM   #200
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Re: My foray into semi-degeneracy: 11 Days in Vegas (TLDR TR)

just another +1 here. Really enjoyed the first trip report, and looking forward to the rest of the reports on this trip. Run G00t!!
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:51 PM   #201
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:55 PM   #202
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Thanks man, this is great. Appreciate you writing this...
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:31 PM   #203
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Nice TR. can't wait to read the next update.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:51 AM   #204
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Sorry for no update today. Wasn't up to writing it this morning for whatever reason. I'll do both tomorrow.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #205
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Day 3

"So, in effect, this is not some humiliating defeat at all, but rather a rare species of victory!"
-Cato to Pompeii, with fantastic sarcasm, Rome

I wake up feeling good, convinced that I'm well on my way to putting my terrible first day behind me, and head to the B with the blase goal of continuing to grab some food and continue to put hours in. I'm fourth on the waiting list for the 5-10 and there's a seat open at 2-5, so I take it. It really is disarming, to be reminded of an average poker table full of clueless tourists, after a few days of butting heads with mostly pros, where the occasional fish seems like so much more of a gift. I'm not there for long enough to make any real headway, though, and lose exactly $1 in the couple of rotations before it's announced that a new table of 5-10 is opening up. We're 4-handed to start with, just enough to get the game started.

I lose a bit in a weird spot where I am forced to fold a strong hand, and we're 5-handed when the eeriest hand happens. I raise AA from UTG and get calls from the button and BB. The flop comes 334 and I bet out, $60 into $90. The button gets out of the way and the BB calls. The turn is the T and, checked to, I bet again, making it $110. The BB thinks for a bit and calls. The river is the 7 and the BB again checks. I fire a third barrel, this time making it $150.

Now, if you read upthread to last trip, there was a hand against Superfluous Man where my hand, the board, and the action, were essentially identical to this. Aces with the ace of a flush draw that hit on the turn after the flop gave an unthreatening paired board, three streets of value. Villain in that hand pondered what I would do if he had check-raised me all in, but eventually folded his hand to the third barrel.

Villain in this hand check-raised me all in.

That threw me for a loop, and I tanked. The line just looks spazzy, but that's sometimes the intent of that sort of line. It's the sort of thing you can do with quads or 4's full, or even having boated up on the turn or river, or with the right dynamics, even as weak as a flush, but because of my A I immediately disregard that possibility, since raising with the lower flush here seems a bit crazy in terms of value-owning implications, and one has to be reasonably sure that you'll be paid off by a pair to make the move worthwhile. Thinking I was a level deeper than that, I decided to pay the raise off with a pair, casually flipped a $10 chip in the pot expecting to see either a monster or a middle pocket pair that went spastic. When I actually saw the JQ, for the flush, I felt thoroughly and utterly soul-owned. That's such thinner value than one might ordinarily think with a flush, and such a great hand from villain's perspective, to have that merged of a range in that spot. Into the pocket I go.

I was moved to the must-move table before much more real damage could be done, and wound up bleeding a few more hundred in spots where I was correct to call when I did but was then forced to fold, or had a cbet raised, or where things just in general didn't go my way. The next few hours saw things fairly aggressively not going my way. I limited what damage I could, stealing a pot here and there, but was on the losing end more often than not and never actually had anything to fight back with, until I raised the CO with A9, the button and BB called, and the flop came 234, obviously very good, and the SB led out for $50 into $95. I did a little calculation as far as what would set up a turn shove and decided a raise to $220, definitely on the large side, would set up a virtually pot-sized push of my stack, which at the time sat at around $700. Unfortunately the button came out of nowhere to cold 3bet to $400-something, the pot's too big to fold, and I realize that whee, it's time to try to crack a set. So I shove, he calls, shows pocket deuces, and before I can think to ask to run it twice the dealer's got the cards on the table, like a ninja. I miss, and down goes another stack.

Not the most interesting hand, but that's basically how the night went. Nothing worked. Every value 3bet was met with folds, and every light 3bet was met with 4bets. By the time I realized that the damage was done I was stuck over $3k, my worst day ever at the tables, and I managed the walk back to the room feeling more than a little depleted. Obviously not how I hoped the trip would start, it's not as though a cumulative 4.5BI loss is catastrophic in the poker sense, though obviously it's more money than I wanted to lose. I'm close to my move-down number, but not quite there yet, and if I can turn things around I'll stay at the 5-10, if not it's down to the 2-5, probably at a different venue, perhaps the Aria, just for a change of scenery.

All told I'm pleased with how I'm handling the loss so far. A certain degree of deflation is inevitable - I've already dropped more money than I made on my last trip - but my focus is still there, I still have an itch to return to the tables, and I remain optimistic.

Day 3: -$3378
Trip Total: -$4674
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:33 PM   #206
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Nice write up.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:33 PM   #207
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Re: My foray into semi-degeneracy: 11 Days in Vegas (TLDR TR)

Day 4

"LOL Donkaments."
-Barry Greenstein, High Stakes Poker

I manage to sleep in, still less distraught about the loss than I thought I would be. I'm wary, and experienced enough to know that tilt sometimes manifests itself in weird ways. I'm not quite at my move-down level and ponder what I want to do, deciding that eschewing the cash games in favor of seeking out a likely tournament seems like the way to go.

After a quick online search, I find that the Venetian runs a $300 buy-in every Saturday at noon, I decide that's about right for my speed and it's about an hour from now, so I head off, hoping to grab some food on the way. When I get there I see that the poker room is under construction, and the sign directs me to the Palazzo. I head that way, and when all is said and done it takes me about 45 minutes to find the poker tables, arrayed out with no barrier whatsoever to the nonstop electronic jingling of the slots. I sign up for the tournament and they tell me that it's actually $500 because it's the first Saturday of the month. I shrug. $500 it is then, hardly a huge loss for the stakes I'm playing.

And so I play, and play relatively well, though I'm card-dead and in the relatively unenviable spot of having stubborn aggressive players on my right and stubborn passive players on my left. It's a great spot if you can catch a hand, because you can either 3bet the aggro players and they'll show resistance, or you can value-bet the passive players to the same result, but my hand is an endless sea of trash and I'm down to about 13k from my initial 15k stack. The levels progress up very quickly, and just after the first break my stack has dwindled down to about 9k, with blinds at 200-400. I catch 88 on the button, and for once it's folded to the cutoff, who raises to 1100. I 3bet to 2400, and then from out of nowhere the SB cold 4bet shoves. I have him covered by a negligible amount, barely a big blind, and he's a pretty good, aggressive player who has to know that I'm 3betting light here and thus is shoving a pretty wide range. I eventually call, and it's a race against his AKo. An ace in the door seals my fate and I'm down to 450 chips. I do manage to triple up, double up, and steal several rounds of blinds, bringing me back off life support and around the 12bb mark, but am unable to make any significant progress beyond there and eventually shove A2 into the buzzsaw of 88, busting and heading back to the hotel.

It should be noted that Superfluous Man was at another table in the tournament and had a huge chipstack when I busted, so hopefully it went well for him.

There I take a bit of a nap, but not feeling quite satisfied, I decide that I'm bringing $1k to the Bellagio and that that's my last 5-10 bullet before moving down, that under no circumstances will I put any more money onto that table. I get a seat almost immediately, and the table is a tough, interesting mix of players. There's usually at least one fish at the table and the rest of us are doing minimal splashing.

Then an incredibly well-built dude, like, seriously NFL-buff, joined the table, and the dynamic changed. He was a weird cat, as far as the poker was concerned at least. A fish on balance for sure, but an experienced and sometimes-dangerous one that played with his emotions more than his head and had absolutely zero theoretical understanding. But at the same time, he was pretty savvy at choosing good spots to bluff himself, and not bad at applying pressure. He was also totally unfazed by the stakes, and talked at great length about the 25-50NL home games he played back home, even almost-seemingly-seriously talking about hopping into the game going on in Bobby's room, where they were playing 800-1600 in something like a 15-game mix, a lineup that included David Benyamine, Jen Harman, and (I think) Eli Elizera. He was spouting such nonsense as "Those pros wouldn't have any idea to do with an amateur, they hate playing against amateurs, they can't handle someone being aggressive without a reason" and other such typical fish bull**** (yeah, I'm sure Jen Harman has real trouble handling aggression...) It's an interesting mix.

He's running hot, too, catching way more than his fair share of great starting hands and flopping two pair so often that it becomes a running joke on our side of the table. He's catching such a deluge of great hands, in fact, that it's catalyzing bizarre mistakes. In one hand, he raised from late position (he was generally very aggressive, and stole a ton) and I defended the BB with A8. The flop came AQ5, and I check-called a $50 bet. The turn came the T, finishing the flush draw, and it goes check check. The river comes, the K, I decide I'm good and lead out for $80. He looks impossibly pained, motions to fold, hesitates, whines a bit, and folds, saying "I rivered two pair, too" before flashing a suited K5. Whaaaaa? But he put me on the flush, and so he folded.

I was still unable to thrive much, treading water mostly, and was sitting at around $800 when I finally catch a break, KK on the button. He raises from MP, I 3bet to $110, and he calls. The flop comes T33, he checks, I bet $110, and he calls. The turn gives me no reason to slow down, the Q, and I make it $220. He check-raises all in, and I instacall. He tables AT and I fade his river outs to drag the pot for the very welcome double-up.

In a final, bizarre hand, he limps from MP and I raise my button with 74, catching a weakness tell on him so huge I can't believe I didn't notice it sooner. The flop hits me pretty well, 763, and he check-calls a standard-sized bet on the flop. The turn is a bricky J, and he leads out for $150. I've still got the weakness tell, and decide he's likely running a bizarre bluff, calling. The river makes such considerations less meaningful, as it is the 5 filling my gutshot. He bets again, $320, and I pretend to think about it for a few seconds before announcing I'm all in. He snapcalls and shows 34 for the chop. Oh well.

With one more fairly-standard spot where I call a 3-bet in a 4 way pot and have to fold, I'm down below the $1500 mark for my stack and I decide to call it a day. With the tournament loss that makes me a little down for the day, but still feeling good. I amble back to the hotel and fall asleep to the Olympics, almost immediately.

Day Total: -$55 (-$500 tournament, +$445 cash)
Trip Total: -$4729
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #208
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Run good man nice TR.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:17 PM   #209
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You doing anything at all besides poker out there? Nice dinner? A show? Anything? You're a good writer and I like the way you describe your thought process, but 100% poker content for the whole trip is going to get a little dry to read. Not to mention live.
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You doing anything at all besides poker out there? Nice dinner? A show? Anything? You're a good writer and I like the way you describe your thought process, but 100% poker content for the whole trip is going to get a little dry to read. Not to mention live.
omg I love that he hasn't told us how he's running good at the Brazilian steak house.
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