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01-06-2017 , 12:20 PM
Interesting way to increase "public transportation" options without any infrastructure or maintenance costs.

How much does a local government or transportation authority spend on a per person per ride basis? Seems like it has to be less than $5, but the idea is interesting, assuming the rideshare or whatever doesn't just automatically raise prices to take advantage of third party contribution.
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01-06-2017 , 01:30 PM
Yeah, but 15 more cars on the road instead of a bus doesn't sound appealing.
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01-06-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Uber is the perfect example of corporate greed and the erosion of the middle class. The whole "no need to tip" campaign was nothing more than a mechanism for Uber to lower the price point of the service without effecting their bottom line. It was a price cut on the service that fell 100% on the back of the workers. Cashless is fine, but then do what Lyft does and include an option to tip. But Uber won't do that because it increases the revenue without them seeing a penny of it.

The other thing that Uber does to protect their revenue is to increase the "booking fee" which they get 100% of while lowering the rates (which the drivers get 75% of). So for the same ride, the rider pays the same but Uber gets more money and the driver gets less than before.

This isn't sustainable and Uber's business plan is to sucker enough drivers to work for them until they are able to roll out driverless cars.
100% agree. Also Lyft made a funny commercial indirectly making fun of Uber for doing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjMDDqytSJY


If you don't tip, or think twice about giving a few dollars here and there, I feel very bad for you as a human being.

I normally overtip, and if the service is bad then I tip the standard 15%. I don't ever remember leaving less than 15%. If I take a uber, I always give the guy a few bucks at least. It won't affect you in ANY way, and if you feel you can afford to eat at a restaurant or take an uber, but you can't afford to tip a few more dollars then you are an idiot.
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01-06-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcheck
100% agree. Also Lyft made a funny commercial indirectly making fun of Uber for doing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjMDDqytSJY


If you don't tip, or think twice about giving a few dollars here and there, I feel very bad for you as a human being.

I normally overtip, and if the service is bad then I tip the standard 15%. I don't ever remember leaving less than 15%. If I take a uber, I always give the guy a few bucks at least. It won't affect you in ANY way, and if you feel you can afford to eat at a restaurant or take an uber, but you can't afford to tip a few more dollars then you are an idiot.
I always take Lyft over Uber where possible, and I always tip at least $2 through the app (except on one occassion of bad service where I reported the driver).

But the whole point of these apps is they are supposed to be cashless. If you order an Uber with the expectation of not needing cash, when someone all of a sudden hits you up for cash, you shouldn't feel bad if you can't hand it over.

If Uber wants their drivers to be tipped, they should build this into the app. If drivers are going to expect tips from their riders, they should drive for an app that at least facilitates them, rather than making things uncomfortable for their individual customers.
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01-06-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcheck
100% agree. Also Lyft made a funny commercial indirectly making fun of Uber for doing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjMDDqytSJY


If you don't tip, or think twice about giving a few dollars here and there, I feel very bad for you as a human being.

I normally overtip, and if the service is bad then I tip the standard 15%. I don't ever remember leaving less than 15%. If I take a uber, I always give the guy a few bucks at least. It won't affect you in ANY way, and if you feel you can afford to eat at a restaurant or take an uber, but you can't afford to tip a few more dollars then you are an idiot.
Among many problems with this argument -- what about those of us that usually don't carry small bills?
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01-06-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Among many problems with this argument -- what about those of us that usually don't carry small bills?
Your driver has change. Look, if your a cheap mother****er then just admit it. We understand there are people like that out there who will call a $300 shove with bottom pair but yet won't tip $1 on the same service that if they took a cab would pay 100 - 200% more plus tip an additional 20%.
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01-06-2017 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Your driver has change. Look, if your a cheap mother****er then just admit it. We understand there are people like that out there who will call a $300 shove with bottom pair but yet won't tip $1 on the same service that if they took a cab would pay 100 - 200% more plus tip an additional 20%.

Uber drivers carry change for $100s? Seems insane to hand an Uber driver a hundo and ask for $95 in change.

Also what if you just don't have cash at all? Granted this is rarely the case for me in vegas but when I'm at home this is the case 70% of the time
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01-06-2017 , 09:49 PM
One of my friends was in NYC recently and told me how outraged he was when he saw some people not tip the cab driver (And so he ended up tipping extra on his ride). I then asked him if he tipped for Uber and he said "Of course not!" and then went on a long diatribe about why you are not supposed to tip Uber but why it's necessary to tip cab drivers.
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01-06-2017 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
One of my friends was in NYC recently and told me how outraged he was when he saw some people not tip the cab driver (And so he ended up tipping extra on his ride). I then asked him if he tipped for Uber and he said "Of course not!" and then went on a long diatribe about why you are not supposed to tip Uber but why it's necessary to tip cab drivers.

A completely reasonable stance
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01-06-2017 , 11:08 PM
Had bad ride share experience in vegas.

first time, I didn't know where the designated spot was at the Rio. The uber driver screamed at me through the phone cause he couldn't find me.

second time, my driver had a huge gash in his head which made me nervous.

third, running late and driver refused to go through a yellow or speed up. IDK if that's a vegas thing? if you tell a NY cabbie you're running late he'll drive on sidewalk to get you there. This guy told me he is trying to drive safe.
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01-06-2017 , 11:22 PM
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Had bad ride share experience in vegas.

first time, I didn't know where the designated spot was at the Rio. The uber driver screamed at me through the phone cause he couldn't find me.

second time, my driver had a huge gash in his head which made me nervous.

third, running late and driver refused to go through a yellow or speed up. IDK if that's a vegas thing? if you tell a NY cabbie you're running late he'll drive on sidewalk to get you there. This guy told me he is trying to drive safe.

Never intended to become a reg in this thread but man you guys all suck at Uber. None of these 3 scenarios reflect badly on the driver in any way
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01-06-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Had bad ride share experience in vegas.

first time, I didn't know where the designated spot was at the Rio. The uber driver screamed at me through the phone cause he couldn't find me.

second time, my driver had a huge gash in his head which made me nervous.

third, running late and driver refused to go through a yellow or speed up. IDK if that's a vegas thing? if you tell a NY cabbie you're running late he'll drive on sidewalk to get you there. This guy told me he is trying to drive safe.
Unlike cabbies, Uber drivers are less likely to rush and break any laws because they know most customers won't tip. Whereas a cabbie will know he is getting a tip, they will do everything in their power to increase it. With Uber drivers, there is no incentive because they know 95% of the time no matter what they do the rider will say get out of the car and say something stupid like "I will rate you 5-stars as a tip", then slam your door. lol

When I did Uber I usually drove 5 - 10 mph over the seed limit, depending on traffic flow. After a few times going above and beyond for customers and getting no tips, if somebody told me I needed to ride on curbs and run lights because they were late I would make sure I wouldn't even go one mph over the speed limit and try to time it so I hit all the red lights.
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01-06-2017 , 11:41 PM
If you are running late, that's on you. I see the 3rd scenario as a positive. The first one is definitely on you. Shame on you for wasting the driver's time when he's already making peanuts.
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01-07-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Unlike cabbies, Uber drivers are less likely to rush and break any laws because they know most customers won't tip. Whereas a cabbie will know he is getting a tip, they will do everything in their power to increase it. With Uber drivers, there is no incentive because they know 95% of the time no matter what they do the rider will say get out of the car and say something stupid like "I will rate you 5-stars as a tip", then slam your door. lol

When I did Uber I usually drove 5 - 10 mph over the seed limit, depending on traffic flow. After a few times going above and beyond for customers and getting no tips, if somebody told me I needed to ride on curbs and run lights because they were late I would make sure I wouldn't even go one mph over the speed limit and try to time it so I hit all the red lights.
you probably got a lot of 1 star ratings and FYI Lyft does take tips so if my ride sucks I can not tip (i rarely don't tip). If I tell a uber/cab to step on it I expect him to speed the **** up.

Why is it my fault if the uber drive can't find me? GPS says exactly where I am, no need to scream at me through the phone cause he's too dumb to find me.
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01-07-2017 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
you probably got a lot of 1 star ratings and FYI Lyft does take tips so if my ride sucks I can not tip (i rarely don't tip). If I tell a uber/cab to step on it I expect him to speed the **** up.

Why is it my fault if the uber drive can't find me? GPS says exactly where I am, no need to scream at me through the phone cause he's too dumb to find me.
If you expect uber to speed up because you tell them too then you have unrealistic expectations. Of course it is your fault that you aren't at the designated pickup spot. They are required by law to pick you up at the designated ride share pickup spot.
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01-07-2017 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
you probably got a lot of 1 star ratings and FYI Lyft does take tips so if my ride sucks I can not tip (i rarely don't tip). If I tell a uber/cab to step on it I expect him to speed the **** up.

Why is it my fault if the uber drive can't find me? GPS says exactly where I am, no need to scream at me through the phone cause he's too dumb to find me.
Last night took a Lyft in NYC, I entered address of where i was and where i was going. from east 30th street to west72nd. but could see location pin was off.

When i was paired with driver saw his rating as 4.7 stars which generally means "not great" in my experience. Sure enough, he starts going wring way to pick me up, so I call and says oh, sorry on my way. What da faq? he gets to pick-up after like 10 minutes and I see him turn off navigation. I ask him why and he said it wasn't working right, so I'm like how about using Waze? Eventually I just tell him to go up east side and cross Central Park at 66th St. I noticed his license plate was a "TLC" which in NYC means that he was a licensed Taxi Limo Commission plate.

I still arrived where I was going for under $20, which was about what I would've paid in taxi. I tipped driver via app, but gave 3 stars for navigation issues and because I know three stars or less and I won't get that driver again.

How do others handle situation when driver is clearly not using navigation software/app?
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01-07-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Had bad ride share experience in vegas.

first time, I didn't know where the designated spot was at the Rio. The uber driver screamed at me through the phone cause he couldn't find me.
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Why is it my fault if the uber drive can't find me? GPS says exactly where I am, no need to scream at me through the phone cause he's too dumb to find me.
Actually, since there is a designated pick-up spot and you didn't know where it was, it appears that you are the one who was too dumb to find him.
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01-07-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Actually, since there is a designated pick-up spot and you didn't know where it was, it appears that you are the one who was too dumb to find him.
Cool story bro. I was at the designated spot he was just too stupid to find me.

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Last night took a Lyft in NYC, I entered address of where i was and where i was going. from east 30th street to west72nd. but could see location pin was off.

How do others handle situation when driver is clearly not using navigation software/app?
I've seen it where they use the app and it's actually slower than the route I know so I kindly give them a route suggestion.
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01-07-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
you probably got a lot of 1 star ratings and FYI Lyft does take tips so if my ride sucks I can not tip (i rarely don't tip). If I tell a uber/cab to step on it I expect him to speed the **** up.

Why is it my fault if the uber drive can't find me? GPS says exactly where I am, no need to scream at me through the phone cause he's too dumb to find me.
Negative, my ratings were fine. The driver is going to go to wherever you place the pin 100% of the time. You are the only one who has control of that pin. If the driver can't find you 9 out of 10 times it is your fault.
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01-07-2017 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Had bad ride share experience in vegas.

first time, I didn't know where the designated spot was at the Rio. The uber driver screamed at me through the phone cause he couldn't find me.
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Cool story bro. I was at the designated spot he was just too stupid to find me.
Uh, so which one was it??
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01-08-2017 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Negative, my ratings were fine. The driver is going to go to wherever you place the pin 100% of the time. You are the only one who has control of that pin. If the driver can't find you 9 out of 10 times it is your fault.
+1

The customer is always right except when they are dead wrong. Lots of customers don't know how to properly use the app and making sure the pin matches your actual location is on you. The driver's job is to just go to where you tell him via the pin.

The one negative of Uber/Lyft, is that you often times get inexperienced customers and inexperienced drivers (if they are just starting out) and since there is a very low barrier to entry to be either a customer or driver, you often have chaos because both people are idiots.

But that is what you get if you lower the price so much. It's like shopping at Walmart. They pay employees low so service is poor but since prices are low, the customers are often just as stupid and you get major altercations/blowups since it's idiot vs idiot and no one wins...except maybe YouTube.
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01-08-2017 , 03:01 AM
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Last uber I had in Vegas the driver didn't speak English. Not that it was a problem, but it was funny. He had the heat on and the car was way too warm. We asked him if we could open the windows and he kept looking at us like I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. Someone tapped a window with their finger and he said "Si"

Guy was in a brand new car, too.
Often times, the Uber/Lyft guy rents the car so they show up in a new looking car but it is not theirs. Usually it is drivers who's personal vehicles are too old for the service so they are forced to rent a car for $200+ a week and end up paying $10,000 a year just to drive for the service. These drivers will not be able to advance in life if their expenses are so high.

I spoke with a few of my drivers who rent their Uber/Lyft cars and they never were able to figure out that they were paying $10,000 a year for the rental. They simply don't do the math that buying a used economy car would cost them less than $10,000 (even with maintenance) and they would be ahead within a year of working.

Some simply didn't have the $10,000 but all couldn't see my point for some reason. Maybe that is why they drive for Uber/Lyft.
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01-08-2017 , 04:02 AM
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+1

The customer is always right except when they are dead wrong. Lots of customers don't know how to properly use the app and making sure the pin matches your actual location is on you. The driver's job is to just go to where you tell him via the pin.

The one negative of Uber/Lyft, is that you often times get inexperienced customers and inexperienced drivers (if they are just starting out) and since there is a very low barrier to entry to be either a customer or driver, you often have chaos because both people are idiots.

But that is what you get if you lower the price so much. It's like shopping at Walmart. They pay employees low so service is poor but since prices are low, the customers are often just as stupid and you get major altercations/blowups since it's idiot vs idiot and no one wins...except maybe YouTube.
Except on the Vegas strip the cars can't just pick up anywhere. They have to go to the designated Uber pickup for each particular casino. So you can't just expect them to come to your GPS location if that location isn't the designated pick-up.

I never instruct Uber/Lyft drivers to pick me up at my GPS location. I give them the name of the casino, I go to that casino's pick-up location, and I've never had a problem.
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01-08-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Except on the Vegas strip the cars can't just pick up anywhere. They have to go to the designated Uber pickup for each particular casino. So you can't just expect them to come to your GPS location if that location isn't the designated pick-up.

I never instruct Uber/Lyft drivers to pick me up at my GPS location. I give them the name of the casino, I go to that casino's pick-up location, and I've never had a problem.
you missed the part of the story where I said it was my first time in vegas. Not everyone knows where the designated pickup spot is. I was standing at taxi line and guy screamed at me through phone cause he didn't see me. So everytime you pickup a tourist who's first time in vegas do you scream at them through the phone? Seems like a really dumb way to run your ride share business, especially when you need rides cause you're getting pennies.
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01-08-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Often times, the Uber/Lyft guy rents the car so they show up in a new looking car but it is not theirs. Usually it is drivers who's personal vehicles are too old for the service so they are forced to rent a car for $200+ a week and end up paying $10,000 a year just to drive for the service. These drivers will not be able to advance in life if their expenses are so high.

I spoke with a few of my drivers who rent their Uber/Lyft cars and they never were able to figure out that they were paying $10,000 a year for the rental. They simply don't do the math that buying a used economy car would cost them less than $10,000 (even with maintenance) and they would be ahead within a year of working.

Some simply didn't have the $10,000 but all couldn't see my point for some reason. Maybe that is why they drive for Uber/Lyft.
I'm not convinced this guy could legally buy and register a car if you catch my drift
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