It should be noted that Uber's low prices actually grow the market. So, for instance a cheap person like myself is willing to take rides on an Uber that they wouldn't other take on a Taxi because of the low price. For instance, when I don't have a car I normally walk the strip. However, now because Uber is so cheap I will catch a ride from casino to casino.

forgot to add in vegas some guy got me in a tesla for uber x.made no sense to me.

people in and around casinos love bragging about how much they're up- except for people who actually do win consistently.

lol, nits complaining about uber prices and tips, holy ****. Be happy the KSA is subsidizing your cheap rides. I promise you it won't last forever.

Sure, uber was designed to be a cashless transaction with no need to tip; however, the "not tipping" thing doesn't work well in the USA. Tipping is part of our culture. I recall reading a story about a tip free restaurant having to change back to a tip restaurant due to losing all their good waiting staff. I am not debating the merits of having a tip free environment; rather, trying to explain how difficult it is to implement and sustain. If you are a steadfast rule follower who sees things in black and white, I can see why it would annoy you that the driver may be hopeful for a tip when it is supposed to be tip free. However, if you're a pragmatic individual, I think you would understand why drivers would like tips to supplement the low income they receive from driving for uber/lyft. I know some people who have driven for uber, and they have echoed what other former drivers in this thread said about the income being low. Sure, they could go get another job. Jobs don't grow on trees; the world is not black and white.

Agree, Lyft allows for a tip on your credit card which is appealing, whereas Uber does not.

I generally use Lyft because, a) my understanding is pays drivers a little more, and b) allows me to tip in the app.

If there is a surge pricing on I'll usually check both apps.

What was strange in my first story was that driver had a tip jar and made comment they were top rated driver in Las Vegas.

Overall really happy that ride sharing is available in the valley as arranging a taxi in the past was typically a PITA.

Agree with most comments that cost of rides will increase and eventually be comparable to what taxis were (e.g. ride to downtown from McCarran WAS $40-50 with taxi now $18 to $25)

Uber is the perfect example of corporate greed and the erosion of the middle class. The whole "no need to tip" campaign was nothing more than a mechanism for Uber to lower the price point of the service without effecting their bottom line. It was a price cut on the service that fell 100% on the back of the workers. Cashless is fine, but then do what Lyft does and include an option to tip. But Uber won't do that because it increases the revenue without them seeing a penny of it.

The other thing that Uber does to protect their revenue is to increase the "booking fee" which they get 100% of while lowering the rates (which the drivers get 75% of). So for the same ride, the rider pays the same but Uber gets more money and the driver gets less than before.

This isn't sustainable and Uber's business plan is to sucker enough drivers to work for them until they are able to roll out driverless cars.

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I'm glad someone here gets exactly what Uber is up to. It is a company that's a pure capitalist machine, with both the positives and negatives inherent in that. Employees are nothing more than an expense, and without the prospect of driverless cars their model is unsustainable.

I only use Lyft at this point since they don't treat their drivers as poorly. Prices about the same but I do like the tip option (as opposed to Uber's active disdain for their drivers making a few more bucks). But I do think Uber's mapping software is better.

i wish they put a tipping option in the app.i usually tip- i don't tip the over the top ass kissers begging for tips or if someone tries some kind of scumbag move but about 80 pct of the time i tip. with that the drivers should be more diligent when figuring out their expenses etc and there is something to be said for being able to drive and make money whenever you feel like it.

i agree after expenses more of them aren't making nearly as much as they think and they tend not to figure it out for a while.

I'll tip them if they don't talk to me.

some have been cool to talk to.
some are just so over the top with the ass kissing or sob stories about their bills and 73 young kids they have to support trying to guilt you into tipping.

I hate that worse than riding a somali cab that smells like piss and vomit.

I wonder how many uber drivers keep track of miles and do a mileage tax reduction. Tax mileage reduction is over $0.50/mile which seems almost as much as the Uber rate.

With all the dead miles in between pick-ups it is not that hard to write off all your earnings with the standard mileage deduction. Which basically means according to the IRS you are actually losing money as an Uber driver.

I don't find tipping to that big of a part of the US culture. Sure, one tips at restaurants but today there are so many fast casual restaurants where tipping is no longer the norm. Tipping is a huge part of the Vegas/gambling culture though which may be the difference in attitudes in Vegas compared to other places. I've never had a driver ask me for a tip in Dallas or seem to expect one. Many of them seem very experienced and happy with what they are doing.

How long will this take? We've had Uber in Dallas for over 4 years. The price for a cab to take me from the airport to my house is $25. The Uber price is between $8 and $12.

Hopefully drivers are discovering that Uber is not a good full time career path. The good thing about Uber is that you can do it to supplement your income, and do so when you want. It's not like you are stuck working for Uber cranking out widgets from 9 to 5 every day.

It seems to me the greatest problem with Uber is that so many people saw it as a way to make money without really working. Essentially, the wages Uber drivers make is directly tied to the number of drivers working. If an Uber driver gets constant work without having to sit then the driver can make decent money. However, when the number of drivers is such that it requires drivers to wait 2 to 3 hours between rides as was the case in Vegas before Christmas, then Uber becomes the lowest paying job in the US.

When that cabbie had a thread didn't he say there were too many cabbies in Vegas? Then they brought on even more cabbies. Then right after that they started up Uber. Plus in Vegas you have Uber drivers that don't even live in Vegas, and you have gamblers that want to supplement their gambling. Seems like a bad market to drive in because of supply even though demand in Vegas will be higher than most markets.

Uber gives incentives if you do X rides during a given weekend or month. For most Vegas drivers, that's where they earn their money.

How are you getting a 4 dollar fare when the UberX min is 6.70 in Las Vegas? Are you sure you didn't have a credit or discount added in?

For those saying how cheap Uber is, I beg to differ. It's very expensive in Las Vegas when you compare it to Uber rates in Los Angeles. (Yes, I know it's cheaper than a vegas cabbie)

I was in Vegas in August for a conference and I mistakenly took an Uber back to my hotel from Mandalay. (There were limited to no cars available) What's odd is that Uber wasn't doing a surge which you'd figure it'd be a good point to do that... but that's beyond the point.

Anyways, I finally got a ride and I got picked up in my own car which was a surprise. That car is a Acura TL. I was surprised, because while the Acura is a nice car... it's utterly terrible for gas mileage in city conditions. Driving around Santa Monica I get about 10-14 MPG and have to put in premium gas. For me, I don't care... but for Uber it's a different story.

I asked the driver how long she had been driving and she claimed she just started that week and was solely driving to meet her quota to get whatever the Uber incentive was. I believe it was like 500 bucks or something. I thought that was pretty interesting but it sounds like these driver subsidies are a huge deal given how Uber is still wildly unprofitable.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...in-net-revenue

Other note, and maybe this has changed. One driver told me a common problem was people not paying attention to the app and just hitting next when requesting a ride. As a result, a number of drivers get sent to Aria for pickup even though the customers are at another casino. (Aria shows up first alphabetically)

If you're in Vegas for work (or can expense stuff) I'd say avoid Uber at all costs. It's wildly inconvenient on the Strip relative to convenience of other cities.

Nice thread.

So I used Uber in Las Vegas for the first time in march this year and I absolutely love it! I've made around 100 rideshare service trips now and always tip the drivers when there are no altercations or whatsoever.

When I am in Vegas I use it every day and it works out great. Cheap prices and great customer support. The app is also really easy to use and gives you exact information about where the driver is, the length of your trip, what you paid, etc. This is the main reason I use Uber/Lyft because I want to pay a fair price.

I'm ****ing done with all these ****ty cabdrivers in Vegas who are scamming people by longhauling them. This march for once I had to take a 'normal' taxi instead of Uber/Lyft because I needed to and yes, ofcourse I got longhauled. I WILL NEVER TAKE A NORMAL CAB IN LAS VEGAS AGAIN IN MY LIFE, NEVER!!!!!!!

So because of this **** I got really enthousiast about Uber/Lyft more and decided to create a website about Uber/Lyft In las Vegas called http://uberinlasvegas.com/ where I give general information about fare prices, but also where the pick-up points are at the hotels on the strip. Many people do not know where they need to go and every hotel has his own policy so it could be handy to know.

Anways, of all the rides I had, there was one ride I will always remember because I felt really unsafe and the driver looked like he was under influence of drugs. It happend when the Las Vegas marathon was going on and they closed the whole strip which I didn't know when I ordered a Lyft to get me from The D (the hotel where I was staying with a friend) to the MGM Grand. So I see in my app that this dude is coming who has like 3 out of 5 stars. I already told my friend like mmmmmh, hope this will be a nice/safe trip. He was there in like 5 min in a crappy car. There was no room to put our 2 cases in his trunk so mine was in the shotgun seat.

Traffic was unbelievable bad and he was using no navigation or atleast wasn't follow the thing on his app and we drove circels for more then 1 hour which you can see in this picture below. It was crazy as hell. On the whole trip this dude was talking to himself continuously together with some ****ing weird music and suddenly asking weird questions to us.

20 mins into the ride his girlfriend called, he answered and she's asking if he put something in her drink at home???????? We were like WTF is this ****, while driving past the ****ing Silverton Casino. Then he took us to the west of Vegas and because he knew he drove really weird halfway he stopped our ride.

Lyft was thinking we completed the trip while we where still sitting in this **** car, with this weird dude who looked like he seriously was on drugs telling us if he could drop us off at a strip club on spring valley or whatever????? I was feeling very unsafe and want to get out of the car ASAP.

Eventually more then one hour later he dropped us off at a intersection close to TI. So we spilled more then 1 hour stranded at the TI coming from The D. We couldn't use any transportation so we had to walk the whole strip with our cases in the ****ing heat and it was crowded as hell. Walked down to Flamingo and then got a driver to bring us to the MGM. This dude was ****ing crazy and also reported this to Lyft. Got some money back as well, but to be honest I didn't even care at that time because I wanted to get out of the car as soon as possible. Just WTF.... hope to never experience something like this again!

Via Rideshare (perhaps thats the wrong term) where you share a ride with another rider. Per my previous post, the driver messed up by leaving before another rider showed up. I've never used any discount.



I went 68 miles from Dallas (half city driving, half country driving) for $66.41. Dallas is way cheaper than Vegas but I believe Uber is paying more local fees as part of the deal to enter the market (not 100% sure though).

I think the term I should have used to clarify is UberPool.

Yes, that makes sense. UberPool is also not subjected to surge pricing, which can come in handy in certain situations.

A few months ago, I was quoted 2 dollar UberPool rates in Santa Monica. It was great, because I didn't have to share the ride with anybody either. Never saw a notice about some promo going on, but needless to say that rate disappeared after a week or so.

Vegas, especially on the strip, is one of the few cities (at least in USA) where cabs are actually make sense, with each place having a dedicated cab line and everything that normally moves pretty fast.

The rest of the country, that is where Uber/Lyft really shines. I used to have to wait up to a half hour or more for a cab with no idea if or when they are going to show up or not, now with Uber, I know I got a ride within 5 minutes even if I'm in the suburbs.

Obviously this is getting derailed a bit but while Vegas can support Uber/Lyft, they are one of the few cities that actually had decent cab service to begin with.

I always tip my drivers unless they do something stupid, as I know most of them don't realize how little they are actually making, but obviously this is not mandatory as the companies advertise tips are not expected and the drivers agree to this before signing up. I have also yet to have a driver expect a tip or try to coax one out of me. If that happened I would be a lot more likely to either stiff or tip less than I was originally planning depending on how it came off, but as long as the ride is safe which is my main concern I leave a decent tip.