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12-21-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gus80
I can't tell you how bad this negative variance is, i can't even write about it. I'm sure everyone experiences it at some point but it's been so bad for so long that I actually really want to puke
Hang in there Gus. I suffered the biggest downswing on my last trip out to LV in sept. Nothing like dropping buy in after buy in after buy it, feels like a kick in the nuts every time. I think the key is to book some winning sessions to get the confidence back. Maybe a trip to Excalibur or the quad to get back on track.

#grindon
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12-22-2014 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Gus80
I can't tell you how bad this negative variance is, i can't even write about it. I'm sure everyone experiences it at some point but it's been so bad for so long that I actually really want to puke
It's truly amazing how long it can last. Multitabling online, it lasts like a week or two. Live, it's multiple months.
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12-23-2014 , 08:16 AM
I had to take a few days off from poker, after another sick losing session, dropped 4 buy ins, i worked out I've been running bad for 250 of the last 400 hrs, there has definitely been some bad play but most of the bad play occurred during sessions where I was running hot or atleast ev.

Anyway, I went to Xs on Friday, just needed to let off some steam so I was basically on one. Given it was Xs there was surprisingly little hot chicks about, probably the time of yr. I took Saturday and Sunday off, literally did nothing. Back grinding today and booked 2 small wins so hopefully my luck is changing. Also definitely need to get a gf, these winter months are way too cold and depressing to to spend by yourself, especially when you're running like ****.
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12-23-2014 , 04:47 PM
I have extreme entitlement tilt, bye bye first 2 buy ins. I really need to focus
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12-23-2014 , 04:49 PM
Please Santa, bring me some run good and the discipline to play this game well
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12-23-2014 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jesse123
It's truly amazing how long it can last. Multitabling online, it lasts like a week or two. Live, it's multiple months.
It lasts even longer if your winrate is low, if you're a losing player, or if you play much worse when you're on tilt.
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12-24-2014 , 09:29 AM
Well I played really badly. I'm feeling burnt out and really played horribly today. I'm gonna take a small break.

I have a question for anyone willing to answer; what do people think is the most profitable approach at 1/3 nl? I would think abc tag would be but I know of people who are much more laggy and apparently crush the game consistently for more than 10bb an hr.
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12-24-2014 , 09:57 AM
Like all things in poker, it depends. Table dynamics are everything. If they're weak/tight run over them LAG style. Raise lots pre with a wide(ish) range, if they are fit or fold, hammer them until you meet resistance. Loose passive/loose aggressive - ABC/TAG make a hand and take a stand. Don't bluff calling stations, it sounds obvious, but even cbetting can be burning money. If you find a maniac, make TPGK, close your eyes and stick the money in.
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12-24-2014 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gus80
Well I played really badly. I'm feeling burnt out and really played horribly today. I'm gonna take a small break.

I have a question for anyone willing to answer; what do people think is the most profitable approach at 1/3 nl? I would think abc tag would be but I know of people who are much more laggy and apparently crush the game consistently for more than 10bb an hr.
yep if you're losing money go back to abc/tag till you get your grove back.
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12-24-2014 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BaconMaker
Like all things in poker, it depends. Table dynamics are everything. If they're weak/tight run over them LAG style. Raise lots pre with a wide(ish) range, if they are fit or fold, hammer them until you meet resistance. Loose passive/loose aggressive - ABC/TAG make a hand and take a stand. Don't bluff calling stations, it sounds obvious, but even cbetting can be burning money. If you find a maniac, make TPGK, close your eyes and stick the money in.

Clear succinct paragraph on how to beat any 1/2 1/3 NL game in the world.

Morning Old Man Coffee session? Run them over until they get mad and fight back.

Loose passive sat nite fish session? TAG it up.

Maniac? Get AQ 99+ ..shove and hope
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12-24-2014 , 12:39 PM
Take a break for the holidays, nit up and try a low variance style once you return. Exclude bluffs other than semi-bluffs out of your game. Remember that a few hands are all it takes to make or break a session, save the energy for the ones that count and embrace the fold. It'll turn around. GL BLOKE.
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12-24-2014 , 02:59 PM
Thanks guys for the input, appreciated, makes perfect sense, I think I sometimes get carried away in lag mode once i set out playing that way, additionally the variance is way higher playing that style and in the midst of a downswing i should probably be avoiding it altogether. Problem is its like crack to me, so I guess my problem also comes down to having the mental strength and discipline to not smoke that crack.

Anyways, I'm off to downtown summerlin for some day game, hopefully the poon will take my mind off the poker

Merry Xmas
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12-24-2014 , 08:27 PM
Just read the whole thread...Nice!

My advice when in a downswing, play more ABC poker.

When will you be leaving Vegas again?
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12-24-2014 , 09:05 PM
What do I do when I'm downswinging and hating life?
I number close hot israeli chicks in shopping malls.
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01-12-2015 , 06:12 PM
Had a bit of a nightmare over the holidays, i got a real bad stomach ache but really didnt want to go to the doctors as it was gonna cost me money, after about 4 days i decided i should probably get checked out so i went to urgent care on rainbow. The doctor looked me over for about 10 mins and says - you need to go to the hospital immediately, i think your appendix has ruptured! :-(

Anyways i had surgery that night and was in hospital for about a week. Thankfully I have travel insurance and all my bills are being covered, so that was actually a touch.

So im out and about now, feeling much better, managed to put in 40 hrs last wk which i was pleased with as for the first few days i was struggling to focus, think i was coming down from the morphine. :-S

Results from last wk :
Mon 3 hrs +532
Tue 3.5 hrs +255
Wed 5 hrs +70
Thur 9 hrs +6
Fri 9 hrs +684
Sat 4 hrs -41
Sun 6.5 hrs -278

C. $30/hr

Im going to record more hands but really just focusing on get better this last wk. I got involved in an interesting spot yesterday.

Hero has been opening wide from lp, realitvly tight from ep and mp.

Villain just sat down, no reads, looks like he could be competent.

Utg limps, utg+1 limps, hero limps with 910hh, btn limps, sb limps, bb checks

Flop (18)
773 hh

Sb leads for 7, folds to hero who calls, btn folds.

Turn (32)
Qh

Sb checks, Hero bets 30, sb calls

River (92)
A

Sb checks, hero bets 50, sb raises to 140 :-o

This felt like a boat all day, i folded and he says " i think i got away with one" shows an 8, so i assume he had 87 for trips. Any thoughts on that hand? I just think the cr on the river is almost always a nutted hand.

So im gonna probably put in a session at aria today, but guess what!? I get outside to my car and some schmuck has slashed my fricking tire!!! I have no idea why, spoke to security at my complex and they say that never happens here, oh well, hopefully just a one off, but cheers mate!

My br is hovering around 7k, once i hit 8k im gonna shot take 2/5, but i do have additional costs this month so it may take a little longer than it should.
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01-12-2015 , 08:33 PM
why did you bet the river there vs check check and then show your flush isn't that strong

nice week
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01-12-2015 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pete921
why did you bet the river there vs check check and then show your flush isn't that strong

nice week
Thanks.

I value bet the river because I thought I would get value from his trips, i would have expected that if he had the full house there he leads the river 100% of the time. I can't remember one occasion where I've seen somebody cr the river for value at 1/3, but when he does cr the river it looks so strong.
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01-12-2015 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gus80
Thanks.

I value bet the river because I thought I would get value from his trips, i would have expected that if he had the full house there he leads the river 100% of the time. I can't remember one occasion where I've seen somebody cr the river for value at 1/3, but when he does cr the river it looks so strong.
wouldn't be surprised if he was holding and ace and didn't consider the flush

fyi I'd checkraise you with a set in a heartbeat probably should've called love to hear some more opinions

Last edited by pete921; 01-12-2015 at 10:40 PM.
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01-12-2015 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pete921
wouldn't be surprised if he was holding and ace and didn't consider the flush

fyi I'd checkraise you with a set in a heartbeat probably should've called love to hear some more opinions
What stakes do you usually play? Just saying from my experience at 1/3 you don't generally see cr on the river
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01-12-2015 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gus80
What stakes do you usually play? Just saying from my experience at 1/3 you don't generally see cr on the river
1-2nl. I'd have to call the raise with a flush it wasn't that much more. He probably had a seven but what intrigues me more is he might have rivered an ace and thought he got lucky.
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01-13-2015 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pete921
why did you bet the river there vs check check and then show your flush isn't that strong

nice week
Yeah, don't do this. Your line was fine folding the river. Depending on person I could see myself calling or folding.
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01-13-2015 , 03:36 AM
I don't care what anybody says, i run the worst
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01-13-2015 , 07:19 PM
Hand from last night

Hero losing big,
V1 loose passive to the extreme
V2 tag
Eff stacks 300
Hero raises btn to 20 with Ad Kh
4 callers

Flop (100)
Q103dd

V1 leads for 80
V2 raises to 160
Hero?
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01-13-2015 , 07:30 PM
Yesterday was a **** show, my biggest leak by far is not minimising the amount I lose during my losing sessions. I ran bad but should have lost maybe half the amount I did. I've thought about why I lost so much considering I wasn't involved in lots of monster pots and what I've realised is a huge leak is playing the same way I do when im winning as when I'm losing. I might c bet 100% of flops when I'm winning and the majority will get folds l, if on occasion someone hangs on until the turn a double barrel will definitely get him off his weak top pair, but adopting the same strategy during a losing session means you just bleed money. I have to accept that about 30-40% of my sessions will be losers and during those sessions I need to really tighten up my range and not bluff. I'd really like some feedback on this because although it sounds obvious it's the first time I've ever really thought of it.
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01-13-2015 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Yeah, don't do this. Your line was fine folding the river. Depending on person I could see myself calling or folding.
Yep that's what I thought, no way I can't value bet this hand on the river
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