Implementing results and graphs for all sessions for next two months for my 3/5 NL games. Also improved the quality dramatically compared to the WSOP vlogs.

more blackjack vlog maybe?

Meh, folding QQ there wasn't the worst thing in the world.

Yeah, it's a leak, but we all have leaks and a willingness to fold overpairs vs aggression on coordinated boards that hit your opponent's range harder than your range isn't the worst leak to have. (if you balance it out with a wider 3bet range, then that'll help -- but bloating pots when deep is tricky).

You may have missed it, but twitch chat pegged you with the nickname "McFoldin" -- which, you gotta admit, is pretty good.

I can't say much since I promised some people I wouldn't vlog about it. But after everything is done (at their consent), I'll be releasing all the episodes and the journey/process. This is in the works.

Agree mostly, but I have to say that it's a televised game which means entertainment is part of the deal. Especially for vloggers trying to continue to get some views for themselves and widen their audiences.

To just purely play ABC grinder poker and barely talk during a streaming game with thousands watching (when you have a vlog to promote) is fairly shortsighted. David V., who doesn't even have a vlog, was more entertaining than almost all of our vloggers. Strange to me...especially after so much advance hype.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out some weird stuff happened behind the scenes to create such a bad table vibe. Maybe when Neeme disappeared for so long he was dealing with some of those backstage issues. Not sure.

Just crossed the 1 million view mark also.

Results posted somewhere after game? What was the w/l total for the vloggers?


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I've not posted much on vloggers do to last Trooper thread being so toxic. But things seem to be a little better discussion now in this thread. I watched the game last night really enjoyed it for the most part.
Vloggers i watch every video for are The Trooper, Andrew Neeme, Rayz Rayl.
I watch Trooper for his life story and i find him funny as ****.
I watch Neeme for his quality and hand breakdowns.
I watch Rayz Rayl because he is the most disciplined 1/2 player on the planet. and just a nice ****ing guy.

I rank him 2nd, after Joey Knish..

Nice.

I thought it was funny everyone saying they weren't impressed with rayz play, because he is the only one besides Andrew who fully supports himself playing llsnl.

I thought Kraut played really solid. Except for the effing camera tell.

Regardless, he caught a few cards, but played pretty TAG, and based on that game, that was obv the best way to play.

CzechCharles was giving money away. It was interesting to see everyone's small leaks exposed.

agree, if PK has bigger bankroll, he will be a winning player at 2/5 for sure.

lol i can agree with that

What about Rayz 3bet 75 in the bb with Js10s after Brad open 15 and Andrew called? That was surprising as hell!
He used his image well in spots. No matter what you say, the dude is a beast, and won the most monies.

My question is what would Rayz have done if he hadn't gotten aces, kings and queens last night? The announcers and chat were joking that his range was AA to AA...and it did seem that way.

I have to imagine he could have loosened up a bit, but maybe he would have just folded the night away. If he kills at low stakes doing that, great, but it was horrible to watch. And again, entertainment is at least a part of the equation during a streaming game.

Both Rayz and Bikeking got some premium hands dealt that held up (Bikeking as we recall got it in worse during the all-in on Boski). So I don't think he played well, and Rayz played just okay and got dealt good hands as well. Tight, folded a lot, made a couple hands and won money. Boring and uncreative play.

As far as I remember, only David V., the non-vlogger reg played creatively and won money.

Boski might be my favourite blogger, but last night proved that good tournament players don't necessary make for good cash game players.

Anyone have any idea how much $ he punted away? 2 or 3 Grand?

I was cringing that one hand with Rayz Rail when Boski held T8 on a 8-2-2 board and Rayz Rail held Queens.

Boski paying off that $400 river bet was the lowlight of the night..

What were the results last night - Win/loss records from the vloggers game? Did they announce it in the stream? Anyone keep track? Did it matter as it was basically a promotion for the Stones Casino!

He did get queens and won a big pot off Boski..see post, 2 above..

Sorry if my question was unclear. What I meant was, if Rayz didn't get Queens or any premium hands, what would you all have thought of him folding every hand the entire night and winning nothing?

Same player, same play. Potential to win money and get paid off if he gets dealt a few premium hands, but in my theoretical example, he doesn't get dealt premium hands.

So instead all you see is Rayz folding all night and makes nothing. It could easily have happened. Saying, "well he won big and so did Bikeking" when they got dealt good hands and Boski got dealt absolute crap, just totally results oriented imo.

I'm not saying Boski played great, but he got dealt nothing much and also took a bad beat against Bikeking in a big pot.

Also, Pokerkraut got dealt good hands as well. Very little really good or creative play from any of these guys, except the one non-vlogger reg.

(I guess the one point that could be made is that if you switched Boski's seat with Rayz's seat, Ray probably doesn't lose very much and Boski might win a bit more, but ultimately Rayz will net more profit due to limiting his losses)

Meh, I think the fact that we knew the hole cards has something to do with that. rayz rayl ck'd back the turn and then bet big on river, which looked like a bluff. I can understand the hero call.

Shoving T8 on the 448T turn was Jeff's lowlight. I can only think that Jeff was putting Dave on AK and trying to get him to fold it (which is not a terrible thing to do in tournies when protecting your hand can be more important than extracting the most value).

Actually, Gorv, it wasn't unclear at all.. I just read it wrong..

I've only watched 1 or 2 Rayz Rayl vlogs..but doesn't he have 2 or 3 kids?

When you are supporting a family like that, it only makes sense to play the way he does..just like Knish..

it was a pretty standard line w/ over pair, bet check bet for two streets of value in cash game,(if it's Ak air, usually go bet bet check give up on the river) surprised a player w/ 700k live earning cant lay it down. I guess a tournament player usually thinks river big bet is polarized, which is not always the case in cash game.

Yeah.. that took about a minute 20 for the Kraut to call, that is a pretty awful slow roll.