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07-23-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTravel
His monthly expenses have to be close to $2500. YT, Patreon and UglyTeenClothes.com bring in that much each month??


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Surely not that high, your website address made me laugh
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07-23-2017 , 05:52 PM
looks like no poker or vlog today either. on twitter he says "35 down, 15 to go" about the state go gamble shirts. once the shirt sales die down or when he decides to play again and loses $800+ i think he will be dealing again.
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07-23-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sdebarry336
looks like no poker or vlog today either. on twitter he says "35 down, 15 to go" about the state go gamble shirts. once the shirt sales die down or when he decides to play again and loses $800+ i think he will be dealing again.
Unless he personally visited 50 states for those photos me thinks he's about to commit 49 copyright violations.
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07-23-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Unless he personally visited 50 states for those photos me thinks he's about to commit 49 copyright violations.
GO GAMBLE!
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07-23-2017 , 06:15 PM
Trooper didn't even register his empire business, Trooperware. He doesn't worry about things like that or taxes or copyrights. He is the Trooper and is beyond all that.
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07-23-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Trooper didn't even register his empire business, Trooperware. He doesn't worry about things like that or taxes or copyrights. He is the Trooper and is beyond all that.


His suppliers are surly going to report to the IRS the checks they cut him (as will Google/YouTube)

So he's going to have to worry about the IRS and audits sooner or later. He hasn't bragged about his business license from Clark County for TrooperWare like I would expect him too so it's unlikely he has one and will have to pay taxes on all his income as a single individual w/ no dependents.
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07-23-2017 , 06:19 PM
And he has money saved separately to pay this tax bill in April obviously, right?
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07-23-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Same crappy haircut tho.
Waiting for Pistol Noon to show up to defend the honor of Troop's haircut...
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07-23-2017 , 06:25 PM
Nah, Bulljive has been taking care of the light work lately.
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07-23-2017 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulljive
Boski's latest vlog was a comedy

Has 1010 a guy 4 bet shoves and he puts him in ak,aq or JJ (lol donkaments) he calls and loses to AK
Shoves KJ into KQ
Shoves KQ into AA

He reminds me of the guys in 2003 who would shove with hands that if called clearly are dominated. I know you "can't just sit and wait for aces" but open shoving KJ is a long way from that.
Yeah, Jeff played this tournament so badly he only outlasted 97% of the field.

IIRC, only the KJ hasn't wasn't completely standard. The KQ vs. AA hand was blind vs. blind for 14 BBs.
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07-23-2017 , 07:38 PM
people keep bringing up the fact he has 28k subscribers like it means something. When that really doesn't reflect much. He is now getting about 10k views per vid. 1/3 - 1/2 of his supposed subscriber base. I would even guess half or more of those just watch for the train wreck and don't actually like the guy.

Whereas Neeme has about 64k subs and has about 70k views per vid. One of his latest 80k viewed vid he got a total of 20 dislikes, no doubt from Trooper diehards.

One of Troopers most popular recent vlogs of 15k views got 230 dislikes, but he just ignores this as 'haters and trolls', and he turns it around as he said "you know when you are successful, when you have haters", ahhhh no, thats just not correct.

Also side note - I assume Mr.Ducks is banned? He spoke some truth.
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07-23-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Unless he personally visited 50 states for those photos me thinks he's about to commit 49 copyright violations.
It's pretty easy to get images from open source or open use licenses. Alternatively, there's plenty of stuff that has entered the public domain that would be pics of the states. I think most **** on Wikipedia is this way though could be mistaken. Not so much defending Trooper as letting you know you're out of your element on this one bubba.
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07-23-2017 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
people keep bringing up the fact he has 28k subscribers like it means something. When that really doesn't reflect much. He is now getting about 10k views per vid. 1/3 - 1/2 of his supposed subscriber base. I would even guess half or more of those just watch for the train wreck and don't actually like the guy.

Whereas Neeme has about 64k subs and has about 70k views per vid. One of his latest 80k viewed vid he got a total of 20 dislikes, no doubt from Trooper diehards.

One of Troopers most popular recent vlogs of 15k views got 230 dislikes, but he just ignores this as 'haters and trolls', and he turns it around as he said "you know when you are successful, when you have haters", ahhhh no, thats just not correct.

Also side note - I assume Mr.Ducks is banned? He spoke some truth.
His account isn't showing banned but since he hasn't checked in for 9 days he might be dead or in jail. We have not heard from Roast King during that time either.
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07-23-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
He is nonspecific on finances because of the IRS and his backers.
I've often wondered why any vlogger would ever claim to be a winner on YouTube given tax implications. I'm pretty sure Babylon pays people to snitch for tax sandbaggers, at least that's the case in these United States.
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07-23-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
His account isn't showing banned but since he hasn't checked in for 9 days he might be dead or in jail. We have not heard from Roast King during that time either.
Worrying. Mr.Ducks might be on a 12 step plan though
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07-23-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LongDTravis
I've often wondered why any vlogger would ever claim to be a winner on YouTube given tax implications. I'm pretty sure Babylon pays people to snitch for tax sandbaggers, at least that's the case in these United States.
If you're savvy or have a good accountant you can write off a lot of items as a YouTuber and pro poker player. For example, if 1/3 of Troop's apartment is his home office he can write off a portion of rent/expenses. He could also write off some of his mileage but he's too lazy to document any of that.
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07-23-2017 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
If you're savvy or have a good accountant you can write off a lot of items as a YouTuber and pro poker player. For example, if 1/3 of Troop's apartment is his home office he can write off a portion of rent/expenses. He could also write off some of his mileage but he's too lazy to document any of that.

I'm guessing all of them would be in a tough spot facing an audit. There's also the hobby-loss provisions working against them.

Given Boski was an online pro at one point and seems to have been doing this for a hawt minute, he seems like the most likely to have his books in order.

Full disclosure, I'm a life nit on stuff like this.

The one who I think would be funniest to snitch on would be Blackjack Pro Michael Morgenstern. He's obviously full of crap but he makes statements about huge wins and about all of his money being tax-free. Would love to see the look on his face when someone read an audit letter to him.

Last edited by LongDTravis; 07-23-2017 at 08:03 PM.
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07-23-2017 , 08:01 PM
IRS not the problem child support in arrears maybe.

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07-23-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LongDTravis
I'm guessing all of them would be in a tough spot facing an audit. There's also the hobby-loss provisions working against them.

Given Boski was an online pro at one point and seems to have been doing this for a hawt minute, he seems like the most likely to have his books in order.

Full disclosure, I'm a life nit on stuff like this.
Dude. A guy reporting under 40k/year is not getting audited.
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07-23-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
If you're savvy or have a good accountant you can write off a lot of items as a YouTuber and pro poker player. For example, if 1/3 of Troop's apartment is his home office he can write off a portion of rent/expenses. He could also write off some of his mileage but he's too lazy to document any of that.
You have to have a clear office space set up that isn't part of a normal living area. Trooper doesn't even have a kitchen table.
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07-23-2017 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
You have to have a clear office space set up that isn't part of a normal living area. Trooper doesn't even have a kitchen table.
Hence the need for savviness.
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07-23-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LongDTravis
It's pretty easy to get images from open source or open use licenses. Alternatively, there's plenty of stuff that has entered the public domain that would be pics of the states. I think most **** on Wikipedia is this way though could be mistaken. Not so much defending Trooper as letting you know you're out of your element on this one bubba.
It's pretty easy to make a decent living yet Trooper doesn't manage to do that, so I don't imagine he'll be smart enough to use non-copyrighted images. The only reason he avoids copyrighted music in his vlogs is to not forgo monetization.
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07-23-2017 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
His account isn't showing banned but since he hasn't checked in for 9 days he might be dead or in jail. We have not heard from Roast King during that time either.
Mr. Ducks claimed to have never played with Trooper and I thought he never knew him. Trooper thinks Roast King is someone he knew and was threatening to put up pictures of Roast King and his girlfriend. I did have the same thought however, because both of them have disappeared at the same time.
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07-23-2017 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Mr. Ducks claimed to have never played with Trooper and I thought he never knew him. Trooper thinks Roast King is someone he knew and was threatening to put up pictures of Roast King and his girlfriend. I did have the same thought however, because both of them have disappeared at the same time.


He thinks he knows who Roast king is because a guy and his gf 1* his TrooperWare FB page who he said tried to contact him to meet up on the strip where they allegedly planned to "lure" him into some sort of trouble.

The dude is Paranoid AF.

Then again maybe he does have a few mentally unhinged folks who have tried to creep on him. lots of weirdos out there so maybe paranoia somewhat justified
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07-23-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TJRPoker
Trooper cutting back on poker and focusing on his "shop" is an example of him focusing on the shiniest object in front of him. There is no thought of long-term strategy (just like his poker game). Watch him loose interest in his shop in the next few months....then move on to the next shiny object.
I love how he now says he came to Vegas "to build something" which is a pretty ambiguous catch all that covers pretty much any path he might take. Everytime he shifts his focus he changes the reason he came to Vegas. He initially came to Vegas to become a professional poker player. He failed at that but then had success in vlogging so he changed his reason for coming to Vegas to play poker and make videos. Now that he has a t-shirt shop his reason for coming to Vegas was to build something. There is nothing wrong with taking different paths but to act like it was all preplanned is so lol. If Trooper got a gig as an entertainer, he would say he came to Vegas to entertain people.

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For sure, but you would still sell them even knowing all of that
I would sell the t-shirts. I wouldn't quit playing poker though and I certainly wouldn't cut back on daily vlogs.

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I often take a break when I have multiple 3 buy in losses in a row, don't you?
Trooper used to not do this but I do think it is smart for him to do. That being said, a 2 day break should suffice. He is taking a much bigger break than that.

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I think his 10k+ bankroll comment was more of a put on the spot/pride thing.
I concur.

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It's possible he has a bankroll in the neighborhood of $10k. Even after the recent downswing he's still in the black for 2017 by about $5-6k. What was his result for 2016? He was up a decent amount, no? So if he is making his monthly nut from youtube + patreon + t-shirts + other donations and only using his poker bankroll for poker stuff then I can see him being in the ballpark of $10k. But that is a lot of assumptions...and I have a feeling he isn't separating life funds from poker funds and is spending more on his monthly nut than he's making from youtube, etc.
In 2016 he was only up a decent amount from dealing poker, certainly not from playing it. You telling me that with a $10k roll he isn't playing some 2/5? Dude seems scared to play 1/2 right now.

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Did the 2016 show him barely break even? I thought he did okay in 2016 but I don't feel like searching the thread to find the graph.
The majority of the year was part of his $8k+ downswing over 15 months. He finished the year strong. Keep in mind he had next to no YouTube revenue back then.

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Yes. Poop probably didnt mind being broke the few previous times because it was nothing more than a "work in progress". Phil Ivey slept under a pier once remember?
What was Phil Ivey doing when he was 44 years old though?

Spoiler:
Phil Ivey is 40 years old.
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