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06-24-2017 , 03:51 PM
you can't thumbs down the same video more than once.
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06-24-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by robber baron
This kid Viggo has potential but he needs to post more. He strikes me as a mellow guy but with Trooper-like tendencies. He just needs to get to Vegas, imo.
his videos dont belong ITT since he isn't in vegas. I posted it in the dedicated viggo thread someone else started since it isn't even poker related anymore and it doesn't look like he will playing any poker for the next 5 - 7 months.
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06-24-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dankhank
The contradictions between Trooper's statements and his results/actions are not hard to pick up on. It's not that "trolls" are more astute judges of character than other posters. The "trolls" are those who most egregiously lack the self-awareness to realize they're not that different from Trooper, with the main difference being that Trooper's flaws are highlighted by virtue of doing a daily vlog.
I like your choice of words, "by virtue" (I'm a long time Trooper watcher since before Desert Manor era. I even sent him some stuff to equip his kitchen and new apartment, most of which he seemed never seemed to use. I thought there was a possibility he might go a "yeahh cookin' with Trooper! Part-time cooking vlog!" route, but he does not have the skills. I was hearing about how he loves eggs though.)

In the saga of this schlub with an arguable learning disability, and likely life-long gambling addiction (his experience with poker is not even the first phase, as he used to play in the pits and has now sworn them off. Yet PLO and HU-tourney punting is still on the menu), producing this vlog has got to be one of the most productive things Tim's ever done. It's certainly granted him opportunities that his mediocrity/decrepitude would never have had, absent a broadcast medium. He would seem to be financially dependent on the vlog (and selling the apparel should be a nice boost), but the importance of the vlog is more than money. The source of self-esteem is DOING WORK, and making these videos is part of his identity. "Building something by building it". A lot of us want to root for him, despite the absurdity of... almost every decision he makes. I had to chuckle and give it to him in a recent episode "what am I supposed to do, NOT talk about my store in the vlogs?" This is his main gig, and he needs it.

To the extent the (Freudian) concepts are valid, Tim is completely ruled by his id, his "whim-worship". He has never developed an ego; in the proper sense of the word. But he does grind out these videos. They are his virtuous productive work, and they also serve as a window into the storm of contradictions he has cobbled together into a view of existence. A view of existence which forces him to have the "I don't give a ****" (about the contradictions) song playing in psyche almost non-stop (especially recently, after what must be a devastating breakup... to him). There are also glimpses of moments... and days where Tim does escape that sort of nihilism. That's when a lot of us like to cheer and root for the Trooper. That said, I challenge you to watch his vlogs and take a shot every time he says "I don't care" or an equivalent statement. He rarely affirms his love of anything, and almost never any thing more important than pizza or burgers.

These vlogs also provide Tim with a huge volume of direct, immediate feedback about his life, on a scale he's never had before. What were most of Tim's interactions before; customers at Magianno's? Customers at the Linq? I also expect that the inescapable nature of the notoriety he's achieved is not something he anticipated. This is kind of supported by his generally avoiding the premiere rooms in town (A, B, W.... with V seeming to be an exception, though we'll see how quickly he makes it back there after complaining about servers), and his completely avoiding the Rio during WSOP, and the topic of WSOP in general. There's gotta be someone at every table in town who knows the Troop by now; he's got few places to go where nobody knows his name.

But about the feedback loop... This feedback he's exposed to by the virtuous work he does on his channel could potentially be very valuable, but Tim has absolutely no ability to parse the (quite noisy) signal that the universe is sending his way in the form of YT comments, coaching offers, or poker results. He's already claimed to have nope'd out of 2p2, because it is more unfiltered than YT (in addition to being a hive of scum and villainy with y'all). I don't know for sure what route Trooper's story will go, but it's pretty clear we're all watching something unsustainable. As a viewer, damnit, that means less poker content coming.
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06-24-2017 , 04:15 PM
Fryingsok

Appreciate your sentiment but what a wall of BS and Trooper apologizing. Dog door with all of that.
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06-24-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Fryingsok

Appreciate your sentiment but what a wall of BS and Trooper apologizing. Dog door with all of that.


I actually thought it was a solid read on Trooper.




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06-24-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fryingsok
...I even sent him some stuff to equip his kitchen and new apartment, most of which he never seemed to use. I thought there was a possibility he might go a "yeahh cookin' with Trooper! Part-time cooking vlog!" route, but he does not have the skills...
With Trooper having formally been "in the restaurant business" you would think he could cook.

A cooking segment once a week.

He could start by cooking some of his favorites.

Square Pizza, Cheeseburgers, Mexican.

Meh, that would be too much work for Trooper.

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06-24-2017 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
I actually thought it was a solid read on Trooper.




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Both of you, please forgive me for my harshness. I've lost just about all benefit of the doubt for our man.
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06-24-2017 , 05:33 PM
What is the over/under in days for Vig being eaten by a bear?

Will Troop still be in Vegas before Vig finished the walk?
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06-24-2017 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
I'm waiting for some drone footage from inside the Rio.
That would be awesome.

Which Drone pilot would have the ballz to do it ?

The guy would be a legend.
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06-24-2017 , 05:41 PM
funny he mentioned buying Trooper stuff and never seeing him use it. outside of a few mugs, has he ever gone out of his way to actually show himself using the crap people send him? i guess he used a blowup (was it a couch?) that one time, but i can't recall much else.
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06-24-2017 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
With Trooper having formally been "in the restaurant business" you would think he could cook.

A cooking segment once a week.

He could start by cooking some of his favorites.

Square Pizza, Cheeseburgers, Mexican.

Meh, that would be too much work for Trooper.

All he knows how to make is eggs and toast.
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06-24-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Conz
funny he mentioned buying Trooper stuff and never seeing him use it. outside of a few mugs, has he ever gone out of his way to actually show himself using the crap people send him? i guess he used a blowup (was it a couch?) that one time, but i can't recall much else.
He's got a tooon of Starbucks mugs, but most of the time he's using... the Dunkin Donuts one. I lol every time
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06-24-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
He's got a ton of Starbucks mugs, but most of the time he's using... the Dunkin Donuts one. I lol every time
I sincerely find Trooper's use of the Dunkin Donuts Mug disrespectful to all the little Trooperettes who spent ~$30 shipping him a Starbucks mug.

And, I'm not kidding about this.

A slap in the face is what it is.
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06-24-2017 , 06:09 PM
Yep, agree.
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06-24-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
All he knows how to make is eggs and toast.
I'm definitely not a gourmet chef or anything but from the time I was in college, I could cook a decent amount of dishes so as not to get bored of the same old food.

Once I started dating after college, I got really good at cooking 5 dishes from scratch to show off to girls. I literally practiced these 5 dishes multiple times at home and then when I cooked for a girl, she thought I was amazing.

So I can now cook an array of dishes and can easily follow a recipe to make something that looks and tastes good. At the age of 45 and working "in the restaurant business" (I laugh at this every time I remember Tim saying this) for most of his life, I'm shocked how Tim can't cook for himself at home other than eggs, microwaving soup, and making some toast.

Has he ever cooked a piece of chicken or beef in his life from scratch? I really want to know the answer to this because how is it that he gets all of his proteins from eating out at the age of 45? Is it laziness or does he seriously have no life skills?
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06-24-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Fryingsok

Appreciate your sentiment but what a wall of BS and Trooper apologizing. Dog door with all of that.
Disagree, there's very little apologist speak there. It's a very reasonable evaluation of where his vlog has gone and the type of content that's being broadcast. I too have followed him for a number of years now since before Desert Manor and agree with almost everything Frying said. The majority of criticism here and in YT comments is mostly nonsensical LOL YOU SUCK SHOW MORE HAND FOOTAGGEEEE trash that isn't helpful. There's a zillion vlogs with hand footage from people who are excellent analyzers but couldn't talk into a camera to save their lives. Those vlogs have their place and can be easily found. Inarguably, Tim has a personality that can create interesting content on its own, without the need for extensive hand breakdowns. As a lifestyle vlog, he can succeed but his content just gets repetitive and lacks continuity. Walk around apartment -> get coffee -> drive to strip -> eat/get more coffee -> walk around more -> play poker -> give result -> go home. His content needs diversification and less predictability. Trooper Across America was a great idea and started out really interesting when he was exploring new areas, new poker rooms, that creepy hotel in Cincinnati - but it fizzled back into the same usual repetition by the end of the trip. I personally do root for him to do well and hope he finds success in his life and making his videos, but the content is just not interesting right now and a less appealing side of his personality has been showing through of late - and that's by his own doing.
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06-24-2017 , 06:15 PM
Unfortunately, there is no smelly Frenchman in this one.

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06-24-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
I sincerely find Trooper's use of the Dunkin Donuts Mug disrespectful to all the little Trooperettes who spent ~$30 shipping him a Starbucks mug.

And, I'm not kidding about this.

A slap in the face is what it is.
What isn't a slap in the face from Tim towards anyone else? Not showing up for the weight loss weigh in, reneging on the bet, calling people parasites, lying about being offered help or being invited to something, blowing off friends' invites to BBQ's and parties, not using gifts his fans sent him, ranting about waitresses and unions when his viewers might be either or both?

The guy is a selfish jerk, plain and simple. And those are the nicest words I can use to describe him.
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06-24-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
... Is it laziness or does he seriously have no life skills ?
I think it's more laziness, cause Trooper is the best at everything he tries to do.
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06-24-2017 , 06:25 PM
No video again yesterday. Is he just too miserable to vlog these days? He has seemed really unhappy lately (even compared to the way he normally is). His videos from the last couple of weeks have shown a side of him that some of his newer viewers are not used to seeing.
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06-24-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by brassbonanza
Disagree, there's very little apologist speak there. It's a very reasonable evaluation of where his vlog has gone and the type of content that's being broadcast. I too have followed him for a number of years now since before Desert Manor and agree with almost everything Frying said. The majority of criticism here and in YT comments is mostly nonsensical LOL YOU SUCK SHOW MORE HAND FOOTAGGEEEE trash that isn't helpful. There's a zillion vlogs with hand footage from people who are excellent analyzers but couldn't talk into a camera to save their lives. Those vlogs have their place and can be easily found. Inarguably, Tim has a personality that can create interesting content on its own, without the need for extensive hand breakdowns. As a lifestyle vlog, he can succeed but his content just gets repetitive and lacks continuity. Walk around apartment -> get coffee -> drive to strip -> eat/get more coffee -> walk around more -> play poker -> give result -> go home. His content needs diversification and less predictability. Trooper Across America was a great idea and started out really interesting when he was exploring new areas, new poker rooms, that creepy hotel in Cincinnati - but it fizzled back into the same usual repetition by the end of the trip. I personally do root for him to do well and hope he finds success in his life and making his videos, but the content is just not interesting right now and a less appealing side of his personality has been showing through of late - and that's by his own doing.


Idk about reading your wall of text but let me be more clear:

While the first part of what he said is accurate I disagree with him and think he becomes an apologist here:

-Trooper doesn't have a traditionally ego
-He has some level of celebrity he's struggling to deal with in person and thus avoids the big rooms/wsop
-The vlogs he produces are virtuous

Especially that last point. His vlogs are a ton of things but virtuous is not one that comes to mind
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06-24-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by brassbonanza
... As a lifestyle vlog ..
Walk around apartment -> get coffee -> drive to strip -> eat/get more coffee -> walk around more -> play poker -> give result -> go home...
That unfortunately is his "lifestyle"
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06-24-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
... Especially that last point.

(Trooper's) vlogs are a ton of things but virtuous is not one that comes to mind
Trooper 100% thinks he is virtuous.
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06-24-2017 , 06:41 PM
He's making a little t shirt money, so he can afford to take vlog days off... He never good for max profit. Don't care though, daily is too much anyway
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06-24-2017 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
No video again yesterday. Is he just too miserable to vlog these days? He has seemed really unhappy lately (even compared to the way he normally is). His videos from the last couple of weeks have shown a side of him that some of his newer viewers are not used to seeing.
It's probably his strategy to increase subscribers. Since anytime he posts a video he loses subs. Always gains a few on the days he doesn't post. Got to not post to gain subscribers
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