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04-16-2017 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Trooper just put the other guy on 88 and bet for value (assuming there was no 8 on the board).
Actually, trooper had a read on the guy that told him the player only had 1 pair (based on chip movement or possibibly the sweat on his brow). He beats most 1 pair hands, 8s, 7s, 6s, etc so its a clear bet bet bet/call for value.
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04-16-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by imdrax
FD missed I believe also which would make flop/turn not terrible but then it would be a clear x/c bluffcatch river spot
I wasn't joking when I said he put the guy on 88. When you KNOW the other guy has 88 it's a CLEAR bet.

I do agree with you btw. Just guessing how he might think about that hand after watching his videos.

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By no means am I bashing troops play, he obv had reasonings for his different plays but from a small sample of what I saw just seems odd. To each his own, I'm in no position to te someone how they should be strategizing there **** shot take. I was actually going to tell Tim nice hand when I picked up but he snap racked up 2 orbits after coolering the the KQ Guy and had $2k+ on the table.
He does a lot of stuff at the table that's different from the way a 2+2 reg would play. What you saw is not unusual from him. It's possible he does more unusual stuff at 2/5 in an attempt to be really tricky.

He probably does confuse a lot of players with his play.

Also I remember him complaining in an old video about people tapping the table to say nice hand fwiw.

Last edited by Steve00007; 04-16-2017 at 06:51 PM.
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04-16-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Just like a single battle doesn't win a war, a single hand doesn't define a player. Despite how much of a douchebag tropper may be with his actions off the table, he seems to be playing a solid game at 2/5 right now. So far none of you local 2/5 grinders have been able to exploit him.
Trooper seems to be on a six month heater (and up overall since he arrived in Vegas) so he must be doing something right. What percentage of poker players are LT Winners? cant be more than 5 or 10 percent. All the haters in this thread tho defy the odds, they are all better than the Troop.
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04-16-2017 , 06:54 PM
Anyways, expect troop at 5/10 tonight or tmw because he was up about 1500 last night so I think that meets his goal for 5/10.
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04-16-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by imdrax
By no means am I bashing troops play, he obv had reasonings for his different plays but from a small sample of what I saw just seems odd. To each his own, I'm in no position to te someone how they should be strategizing there **** shot take. I was actually going to tell Tim nice hand when I picked up but he snap racked up 2 orbits after coolering the the KQ Guy and had $2k+ on the table.
Might have racked up quickly because he has enough for 5/10. But I can't remember how close he was to that goal.
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04-16-2017 , 07:09 PM
2 bullets at 5/10 though. I wish he'd at least go 3 bullets.

I feel like 3 buyin swings are super common
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04-16-2017 , 07:10 PM
Yeah... he should keep playing 2/5.
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04-16-2017 , 07:28 PM
He's on quite the heater so better time than ever for that 5/10 shot. On the other hand, the 5/10 in town right now is literally the worst it's been in a long time. Haven't seen a 5/10 game all weekend worth sitting. B was down to 1 5/10 game by like 2am last night which is insane for a Saturday night.
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04-16-2017 , 07:41 PM
Infidels! I see Bobby's Room in his immediate future.

Glad to see that Troop is using the winnings to eat and dress better.
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04-16-2017 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diet Mountain Dew
What percentage of poker players are LT Winners? cant be more than 5 or 10 percent. All the haters in this thread tho defy the odds, they are all better than the Troop.
It's not that tough though because most players don't put in the hours and don't really even put forth any effort at all.

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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Might have racked up quickly because he has enough for 5/10. But I can't remember how close he was to that goal.
He could have racked up because he likes super short sessions or because he wanted to go walk around or something. Who knows.

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Originally Posted by imdrax
He's on quite the heater so better time than ever for that 5/10 shot. On the other hand, the 5/10 in town right now is literally the worst it's been in a long time. Haven't seen a 5/10 game all weekend worth sitting. B was down to 1 5/10 game by like 2am last night which is insane for a Saturday night.
I'm not surprised. Poker is dying a slow death.
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04-16-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Is this vlogger game going to be 2/5? If so then it makes no logical sense for Trooper or Pokerkraut to play it. Really, it doesn't make sense for Brad to play it either. Like why would Trooper play in a game that he isn't even rolled for with a bunch of grinders/pros? That makes no logical sense. As I previously suggested, the stakes should be no higher than 1/1 for maximum participation and enjoyment.
If he played the vlogger game he'd be @@@@@@@ bricks!!
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04-16-2017 , 09:14 PM
So I decided not to post long form HHs because its not going to contribute much and just fuel the trooper hate train. I'm a fan of the vlog but its a tough spot because I actually wish I could post some criticism about how he played the hands and have him read and learn a bit.

But I will say this, there is very small chance he was a winner in that game. It was a soft table like any 2/5 in vegas but with 3 grinders and I think one decent rec player also at the table its just not going to happen. It was fairly obvious both other grinders were trying to get into pots with him so I assume they felt the same way about his play. If I didn't know better I would assume he was a rec player, however I don't play 2/5 much these days so I may be overestimating what it takes to beat 2/5 idk

The thing I found most alarming was his timing. I know live players don't appreciate timing tells like online players do, but he acted INSTANTLY in many spots where you simply have to think thru a few betsizes and line choices before making a bet. You can call me nit picky but these are things winning players do.

Trooper if you're reading this I really think you should just take 2-4 weeks off and grind out some 10nl online. You would learn a ton of fundamentals that you don't even know exist right now and would catch up to the average 2/5 ****reg much quicker than you think. But at the moment its clear troop hasn't studied poker a day in his life or used any software, etc. If he shot takes 5/10 I guarantee he will be a losing player and it isn't even close really.

Sorry for the roast troop, hope this inspires you to take some time and work on your game off table.
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04-16-2017 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
... He (trooper)can keep his "lifestyle" vlog ....
Can someone pin down what vlog he said this in ???

I wanna get the exact quote right.

Trooper said something like his Vlog is not a poker vlog, it's a lifestyle vlog. Or something like people watch his vlog for his lifestyle, not the poker.


I think it was about a month ago.
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04-16-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by biz-nitch
So I decided not to post long form HHs because its not going to contribute much and just fuel the trooper hate train.
In other words you don't want to share the truth with us. Well, that's up to you I suppose.

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I'm a fan of the vlog but its a tough spot because I actually wish I could post some criticism about how he played the hands and have him read and learn a bit.
You do understand that Trooper construes constructive criticism as hate right? You are a hater no different than the haters he encountered when he showed up in the original thread. Players that had beaten the stakes before that were offering advice and/or free coaching: HATERS!

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Originally Posted by biz-nitch
But I will say this, there is very small chance he was a winner in that game. It was a soft table like any 2/5 in vegas but with 3 grinders and I think one decent rec player also at the table its just not going to happen. It was fairly obvious both other grinders were trying to get into pots with him so I assume they felt the same way about his play. If I didn't know better I would assume he was a rec player, however I don't play 2/5 much these days so I may be overestimating what it takes to beat 2/5 idk
You are greatly greatly underestimating what it takes to beat 2/5. There are players far better than Trooper that have failed at 2/5. Sure, it ain't rocket science but there is no way in hell Trooper is a favorite at 2/5 particularly if there are 3 grinders at the table.

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Originally Posted by biz-nitch
The thing I found most alarming was his timing. I know live players don't appreciate timing tells like online players do, but he acted INSTANTLY in many spots where you simply have to think thru a few betsizes and line choices before making a bet. You can call me nit picky but these are things winning players do.
Salaburu disagrees.

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Trooper if you're reading this I really think you should just take 2-4 weeks off and grind out some 10nl online. You would learn a ton of fundamentals that you don't even know exist right now and would catch up to the average 2/5 ****reg much quicker than you think.
LMAO @ you thinking he would take your advice or put in the work? Any advice you can give him we have already given him a hundred times over. There is no chance in hell he listens to a jealous hater like you.

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Originally Posted by biz-nitch
But at the moment its clear troop hasn't studied poker a day in his life or used any software, etc. If he shot takes 5/10 I guarantee he will be a losing player and it isn't even close really.
Yet you think he can possibly beat 2/5. There are players that have studied their asses off that are stuck at 1/2 for life. It's not even clear that he's a winner at 1/2. He recently lost $8.5k in a 15 month period playing 4+ days of 1/2 a week!

Thanks for your post and insight. Unfortunately, you are now just a jealous hater like the rest of us though.
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04-16-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Infidels! I see Bobby's Room in (trooper's) immediate future ...
Operation Uptick Mission 4 is Bobby's Room ???
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04-16-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Thanks for your post and insight. Unfortunately, you are now just a jealous hater like the rest of us though.
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04-16-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by biz-nitch
Sorry for the roast troop, hope this inspires you to take some time and work on your game off table.
He has been winning for several months now and is doing better than ever so it's even less likely he listens to that type of criticism. He has received that type of criticism before. And even though you're trying to help, a lot of people have big egos and don't like to hear that criticism about themselves. Especially poker regs that have been playing for years, take pride in their game and have won at 1-2 and 2-5.

He has actually suggested that he does work on his game. The vlog is about him doing things in his own way, without having a boss or anyone tell him what to do.
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04-16-2017 , 10:15 PM
Yes!
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04-16-2017 , 11:08 PM
New Vlog!

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04-16-2017 , 11:23 PM
Does Troop wear for the same hoody every day?
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04-16-2017 , 11:26 PM
Proved it is not hard to sound like a clown turning a straight flush.

What happened? I fell asleep during the math lesson.

Interesting he knows all the rules for the poker challenge but seems to have forgotten the weight loss challenge.
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04-16-2017 , 11:39 PM
oh god, he's moving up to 5/10 with a 2 BI stoploss? Whats the point? He made like 5k in a 2 weeks or something at 2/5, clearly 2/5 is a nice limit to make a steady income at. Just ****ing stay there and enjoy life, make that 2 BI stoploss a 4 BI stopless and be able to survive at the same level. If he busts his 2k which he most certainly will since 5/10 players are actually a level ahead whereas 2/5 players are just the same as 1/2 players with deeper pockets, it'll hurt his confidence so bad to go back to 2/5. Then if he loses a few more of buyins there it will shatter him. 7k is not some great roll to have at 2/5 but it aint bad either especially with other sources of income. This is like his one moment to finally become a legit pro and he's going to squander it for no reason.
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04-16-2017 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Infidels! I see Bobby's Room in his immediate future.
I see him living in the tunnels before he ever plays in Bobby's Room..
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04-16-2017 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
Can someone pin down what vlog he said this in ???

I wanna get the exact quote right.

Trooper said something like his Vlog is not a poker vlog, it's a lifestyle vlog. Or something like people watch his vlog for his lifestyle, not the poker.


I think it was about a month ago.


In this highlight vid he discusses the purpose of his vlog, which as of this episode which was originally summer 2015, he says he had just figured out its purpose then. This is not the exact quote you were talking about, but I think I remember hearing him say something like that recently. He has said previously as well and certainly was not the only time. He considers his project a lifestyle vlog over a poker vlog.
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04-16-2017 , 11:44 PM
Anyone want to make an Over/Under line how many sessions of 5/10 trooper puts in before he's "Out" ???
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