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03-15-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Nah, he normally parks at one casino, picks up coffee at another and then plays at a third. Then he walks around aimlessly while taking long breaks during his session. If you want to know why Trooper is in as good of shape as he is in, it's because he walks a ton.

I'm not sure where Trooper has heard that villain's won't bluff big at 1/2 but I think he is confusing what people actually say. Also, I heard someone at the table saying "Sick call." Perhaps that's why he put "sick call" in the title because honestly it didn't seem like a very difficult call to make.
I normally dont give guys like you attention, but man you salty.
are you actually enjoying this internet bashing? seems you also put in allot of time to do this...
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03-15-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Most strategy books talk about not playing passive especially OOP.
This hand is what separates 1-3 players vs 3-5 winning players IMO. You will get absolutely get crushed in 3/5 playing as passive as Trooper did in this hand.
If Trooper took control of the hand he would never be in this spot....he either needs to bet turn or bet river (blocking bet), checking both streets to his opponent is disaster as villian can now put max pressure on him on both streets and he has no clue what to do hence him tanking forever.
In 1-3 he is faced with a $120 shove, in 3-5 he would be faced with a $500 bet and snap fold despite his "read".
Sounds like you think the more buttons you click the higher up you can play.

Troopers hand analysis makes me chuckle just like " the guy scratched the side of his face so I knew he was bluffing" sounds like he's just watched rounders about 3 weeks ago and decided to start playing poker.
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03-15-2017 , 12:33 PM
So OFA and Squid Face make notable post (as experts in their respective fields) that are critical of their previous experiences w/ Trooper. Then almost immediately after that an account reg Oct '16 (the month Trooper went Brokeback and vowed to quit 2+2) post dismissing "a handful of poster posting about how wonderful, expert and magnanimous they perceive themselves to be to one of the vloggers regularly followed?" Followed by labeling the thread posters as the things Trooper was critically labeled by some the other day (borderline narcissistic/sociopathic).

Doesn't take an Internet sleuth to say: Hi Trooper! Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs
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03-15-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
As our A#1 Hollywood screenwriter Natamus would likely and so eloquently inquire...."Project much?"

LOL he sure does seem to enjoy the show based on the fact he's spent some part of the last 13+ years hanging around.
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03-15-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Most strategy books talk about not playing passive especially OOP.

Everything is up for discussion and it's not necessary to stay on the jj hand trooper had forever. but please reference a book and the page # we can find an author suggests to triple barrel into an opponent who has position on you on a kkx flop when you, the hero, has an under pair to the board.


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03-15-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KingAnything999
Everything is up for discussion and it's not necessary to stay on the jj hand trooper had forever. but please reference a book and the page # we can find an author suggests to triple barrel into an opponent who has position on you on a kkx flop when you, the hero, has an under pair to the board.


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Who said triple barrel? I said bet turn OR river...
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03-15-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Who said triple barrel? I said bet turn OR river...
Not sure what merit betting either has tbf unless for thin value on river
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03-15-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Who said triple barrel? I said bet turn OR river...


Watch the video from the 9:10 mark. trooper raised out of the bb to $15. then he bet the flop $20. so what you're suggesting would technically be 3 barreling. preflop, flop, turn or river. i didn't say this...you did! betting the turn would block yourself from betting the river for value if called. and a river bet probably will only be called by a kx hand. maybe a pocket pair but you can't call a river raise can you?? out of position check calling the turn and river is probably the better line, after being called on the flop.


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03-15-2017 , 01:12 PM
Why try to intimidate the opponent? Why?

He claims to have the tell already.


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03-15-2017 , 01:13 PM
I don't mind Troopers JJ line, but I think if you take the passive line instead of turn betting, calling the river shove should be fairly auto.

You check to induce the villains bluff range and sigh if he has a K.

But AK is unlikely and especially once the Q on the river comes, KQ unlikely.

Villain probably isn't auto shoving a Q there either.

Call seems super standard, especially knowing he has all out bluffs in his range.
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03-15-2017 , 01:22 PM
Begging, narcissism, immaturity and fake tough guy persona.

Why is Andrew kicking his butt?


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03-15-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
You are WRONG!!



Kraut definitely wins this thread.
This is a must see.
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03-15-2017 , 02:13 PM
Pokerkraut might be the most likeable guy ever. That intro was gold. I had to take a 5 minute break to gather myself when he was boxing the chicken in the garage.

It's cool to see the evolution of poker vlogging from all of these people who have come in after Trooper. It's pretty freshing in comparison to the stale act of some of these other channels that are just sticking to the ABC YouTube vlog formula that people have been doing for 7-8years now.

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03-15-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Pokerkraut might be the most likeable guy ever. That intro was gold... when he was boxing the chicken ...
I was flabbergasted !
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03-15-2017 , 02:41 PM
Just watched the JJ hand video. Not sure what physical tell he's claiming to have seen but the insta 'all in' on the river from villain sure sounds bluffy as ****
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03-15-2017 , 02:45 PM
PK with the best ever poker vlog scene. Deserves to go non-poker viral.
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03-15-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Who said triple barrel? I said bet turn OR river...
What do you hope to accomplish with the bet? What better hands are you hoping to fold out? If your opponent is on tilt and capable of bluffing like Trooper believed, then the best line is to induce the bluff, not fold it out, especially in situations like this where a bet has very little chance of causing a superior hand to fold.
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03-15-2017 , 04:03 PM
PK video was awesome! The guy is definitely the type of personality you want at the poker tables. It looks like he is enjoying the vlogging and is having a ton of fun. While he doesn't get a ton of fan mail and his viewers are lower than other vloggers (as is his production value), he is doing it as a hobby and keeping the videos entertaining by producing great content with less production value.

On the other hand, you have Andrew Neeme who while enjoying the vlogging, is taking this seriously in putting out a quality product and is now building his brand while also monetizing the channel with some original t-shirts that have already sold out in one of the designs available.

In the middle you have Trooper. He definitely enjoys vlogging and getting his videos and opinions out there. Yet his content is very weak due to the quantity of videos that he throws out there. Also, he seems very desperate for money and gives off a very heavy begging feel in his vlog. He has really half ass-ed trying to cash in on his videos and it is hurting his brand a lot. Had he released t-shirts and mugs with "What up, it's the Trooper!", it would have been a popular item and would have been a better way for people to support him rather than send in Starbucks gift cards. (It's not too late, Trooper. Wake up!)
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03-15-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wilson1560
What do you hope to accomplish with the bet? What better hands are you hoping to fold out? If your opponent is on tilt and capable of bluffing like Trooper believed, then the best line is to induce the bluff, not fold it out, especially in situations like this where a bet has very little chance of causing a superior hand to fold.
Strictly for value and avoiding giving a free card (infinity odds) to opponent.
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03-15-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Most strategy books talk about not playing passive especially OOP.
This hand is what separates 1-3 players vs 3-5 winning players IMO. You will get absolutely get crushed in 3/5 playing as passive as Trooper did in this hand.
If Trooper took control of the hand he would never be in this spot....he either needs to bet turn or bet river (blocking bet), checking both streets to his opponent is disaster as villian can now put max pressure on him on both streets and he has no clue what to do hence him tanking forever.
In 1-3 he is faced with a $120 shove, in 3-5 he would be faced with a $500 bet and snap fold despite his "read".
It's rare for villains at 1-2 to put max pressure on you in that spot. Usually when you check it down and you're ahead, they check it down unless they hit something. That's one reason why 1-2 is so easy to beat.
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03-15-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Did Trooper really ask the guy if he wanted him to take his chips now or later?

This is how a professional gambler treats people at the poker table?..
The pros at 2/5 and 5/10 don't always treat opponents well either. Some give off a super boring vibe and just sit there with the backpack and headphones and don't say a word. Others might actually try to intimidate or berate people.
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03-15-2017 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Just watched the JJ hand video. Not sure what physical tell he's claiming to have seen but the insta 'all in' on the river from villain sure sounds bluffy as ****
Trooper had a 50/50 shot of guessing right, and he did..
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03-15-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Kid
Most strategy books talk about not playing passive especially OOP.
This hand is what separates 1-3 players vs 3-5 winning players IMO. You will get absolutely get crushed in 3/5 playing as passive as Trooper did in this hand.
If Trooper took control of the hand he would never be in this spot....he either needs to bet turn or bet river (blocking bet), checking both streets to his opponent is disaster as villian can now put max pressure on him on both streets and he has no clue what to do hence him tanking forever.
In 1-3 he is faced with a $120 shove, in 3-5 he would be faced with a $500 bet and snap fold despite his "read".
It's interesting to hear that strategy books are teaching blocking bets. No wonder poker is so easy. LMAO @ taking control of the hand so that he is never in this spot. Oh the horror that your opponent will just put their entire stack in the middle with air. I just hate when players donate money to me like that. If playing this hand aggressively is what separates a 3/5 winner from a 1/2 winner then playing it passively is what separates a 5/T winner from a 3/5 winner.

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I normally dont give guys like you attention, but man you salty.
are you actually enjoying this internet bashing? seems you also put in allot of time to do this...
Salty? WTF are you talking about? I'm Troopers undisputed #1 fan. I even hung out with him once, and I'd buy a Trooper97 refrigerator magnet if he sold them. I apologize for trying to be unbiased ITT, but it's pretty well known that I am pro-trooper. I'm surprised nobody has accused me of being paid by the Trooper to post here.

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d.c. i know you're the lead guy on troop's defense team.
Someone has to keep the haters in line.

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The pros at 2/5 and 5/10 don't always treat opponents well either. Some give off a super boring vibe and just sit there with the backpack and headphones and don't say a word. Others might actually try to intimidate or berate people.
I agree. I'd say most 2/5 and 5/T grinders in Vegas are bad at this. Higher than that they tend to be better. Thing is that poker is a grind and it beats people down. Not sure how many players are trying to provide a fun atmosphere but even for those that are, it's not necessarily easy to do day in and day out.
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03-15-2017 , 06:24 PM
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I agree. I'd say most 2/5 and 5/T grinders in Vegas are bad at this. Higher than that they tend to be better. Thing is that poker is a grind and it beats people down. Not sure how many players are trying to provide a fun atmosphere but even for those that are, it's not necessarily easy to do day in and day out.[/QUOTE]

I agree many don't. However anyone who doesn't who starts

1)will make more money in the long run
2)will probably have more fun
3)their opponents will have more fun
4) it will be a lot less of a grind if you're having fun at the especially during losing streaks.

The problem is a lot of these guys are decent (basically as you move up the silent nits are a little less bad on average, some are actually good) at poker and see it purely in terms of math and ev not realizing a lot of poker is social and psychological

Even worse they think it's an accomplishment to be better than someone at a game they take seriously that their opponent doesn't. It's not.
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03-15-2017 , 06:33 PM
i didn't view troop's comment about taking chips offensive at all. It's a competitive game. and trash talk is pretty normal amongst men. i think the average recreational player will find a little table talk add to the vegas experience. not feel unwelcome or abused. and the main thing that runs off recs and tourists is lost money not the absence of a tour guide or host at the table.

on this one, people are just finding flaws and holes in trooper.

d.c. get in here and straighten the critics out. lol


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