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Vegas Vlog thread (Trooper et all) Vegas Vlog thread (Trooper et all)

04-14-2016 , 06:04 PM
Yeah he wouldn't make a vlog if he didn't want people commenting. There is a lot of negativity but I think much of it is jealousy.
04-14-2016 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
In the hey-day of 2p2 (~2008) the Trooper would've gotten completely roasted. If this thread were in NVG or BBV back in the day, it would've been a total trainwreck.

The comments itt are mild compared to those times. And even those considered to be overly "negative" aren't that. This forum has become a lot tamer in years past.

Yeah it has. Mainly because all those 16-18 year old trolls in 2008 eventually got older, grew up, got jobs, and now know what it's like to "adult". Most of the flamethrowing morons that you've seen come and go don't even play poker. They just live vicariously through WSOP coverage and the occasional high roller TR that pops up every now and then. Read a couple chapters out of Super Systems, memorize a couple EV charts online, play a little $0.01/0.02 on a $10 deposit online, and position yourself as all-knowing to strangers on the internet.

You know how it goes.
04-14-2016 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Yeah it has. Mainly because all those 16-18 year old trolls in 2008 eventually got older, grew up, got jobs, and now know what it's like to "adult". Most of the flamethrowing morons that you've seen come and go don't even play poker. They just live vicariously through WSOP coverage and the occasional high roller TR that pops up every now and then. Read a couple chapters out of Super Systems, memorize a couple EV charts online, play a little $0.01/0.02 on a $10 deposit online, and position yourself as all-knowing to strangers on the internet.

You know how it goes.
I was shocked to see how old the demographic of 2+2 is. I went to the 2+2 party and nearly everybody was much, much older then me.
04-14-2016 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bukafax
I was shocked to see how old the demographic of 2+2 is. I went to the 2+2 party and nearly everybody was much, much older then me.
I'm sure the trolls of years past don't have cars or the $ to spend on travel show their face at a 2+2 party. We're you at the one at South Point a few years back?

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04-14-2016 , 06:31 PM
Saw someone (surfinigIllini, I think) had posted some of Trooper's session number a few pages back. I figured I'd do the same going back to when he first moved back to Vegas.

Not only is it kinda fun watching the old footage, I wanted to know the numbers. I'm only through 2014 as of yet and the numbers may be a stitch off (there were some questionable sessions, but 2014 was pretty decent to The Trooper, especially November.

Pretty Kroger brand tabulating system I have here, but posting nonetheless.

BTW, gl Troop. It's also much more fun when you win.

The Trooper 2014 In Vegas

June 2014
*Tournament +252
Golden Nugget +102
Venetian +20
Golden Nugget -160
Planet Hollywood +162
0/2 STT at Rio -170
Planet Hollywood -500
Venetian +400
Daily Turbo Planet Hollywood -75
Venetian +220
Quad -69
Treasure Island -114
??? location ??? -184 (cash)
Golden Nugget +100
Mirage +110
Tournament -??
Mirage 0
Mirage +164
Venetian +354
Tournament PH +216 (-buy in)
———-> Trooper Contingency Plan (get a job)
TOTAL +605

July 2014
Aria Tournament -125
Aria Tournament -125
Aria Tournament -125
MGM Grand +860 (staked)
TOTAL +860

August 2014
8/1 - Gets Job (Carraba’s) +400 (# of sessions?)
MGM Grand -200 (?? He didn’t really say ??)
TOTAL +200

September 2014
Golden Nugget +50 (Three SS bullets)
Quad +50
Quad -150 (150 buy-in = previous win +100 video poker win)
****(Starting From Zero aka deleted history)*****
Quad +53
Planet Hollywood +210
Venetian -129
Quad -17
Ventian +154
Quad +20
Harrah’s +185
Venetian +182
MGM Grand +310
Poker -180
Poker +100
TOTAL +838

October 2014
Excalibur -170
Golden Nugget -21
Golden Nugget +165
Golden Nugget -300
Binion’s -300
Venetian -240
MGM Grand +26
Planet Hollywood +300
Planet Hollywood +329
TOTAL -211

November 2014
Venetian +244
Planet Hollywood +330
Venetian +137
Planet Hollywood +801
Planet Hollywood -140
Caesar’s Palace +370
Caesar’s Palace +215 (not sure of location)
Caesar’s Palace +31
Caesar’s Palace +327
Caesar’s Palace -68
Bellagio -900 (2/5)
Planet Hollywood +106
Planet Hollywood +219
Planet Hollywood? +233
Planet Hollywood +133
Venetian +290
MGM Grand +252
Planet Hollywood +609
Planet Hollywood? -124
Planet Hollywood +551
Planet Hollywood +378
Wynn ???????+250?????
Aria +248
Planet Hollywood +412
TOTAL +4654 1/2 or 1/3 +5554

December 2014
Venetian +182
Planet Hollywood -352
Aria +305
Venetian -1000
Mirage +243
Golden Nugget -318
Golden Nugget +304
Golden Nugget ????? don’t know if he played (Aria Express vid)
Aria +295
Planet Hollywood +170
Caesar’s Palace -370
Golden Nugget +419
Venetian -529
Caesar’s Palace -689
Golden Nugget +249
TOTAL -1091

Yearly TOTAL (cash) 5855, (1/1-1/3) 6755

Didn't factor tournaments into totals.
04-14-2016 , 06:33 PM
Troop needs more November 2014s.
04-14-2016 , 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by foatie
I'm sure the trolls of years past don't have cars or the $ to spend on travel show their face at a 2+2 party. We're you at the one at South Point a few years back?

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I was in Vegas at the time but skipped South Point.

I went last year to the Planet Hollywood one. Was pretty disappointing. Very low turn out. Food was pretty good though. Not a bad hour spent.
04-14-2016 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
I guest when you post to a public forum that allows for comments you should expect comments.

If you sign off every vlog with "Please post your comments below" you better expect comments.

When you say "I read all of them" you probably expect the comments to offer advice, criticism and support.

So if you had a vlog and the same 5 guys posted over and over, day in, day out; "You suck at poker. Get a coach"
... how many times would you read it before you stopped reading their posts?

Anyway, who said you weren't allowed to post comments? You idiots are so caught up in the fact that its your god given right to post whatever negative drivel pops into your pea-brains. What about our god given right to point out how pathetic and hateful you and your posts are.
04-14-2016 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
So if you had a vlog and the same 5 guys posted over and over, day in, day out.
+1. Those guys are just talking to themselves at this point. Nobody that obsessed with "helping" Trooper has anything worth saying. Love the vids, keep 'em coming, and keep ignoring those 5 or so guys. If they have half a brain they'll get the picture at some point. Then again...
04-14-2016 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
So if you had a vlog and the same 5 guys posted over and over, day in, day out; "You suck at poker. Get a coach"
... how many times would you read it before you stopped reading their posts?

Anyway, who said you weren't allowed to post comments? You idiots are so caught up in the fact that its your god given right to post whatever negative drivel pops into your pea-brains. What about our god given right to point out how pathetic and hateful you and your posts are.
Please find me somebody who posts articulately who has said "You suck at poker..." and quote that person. Don't invent quotes.

People implicitly imply that they shouldn't be posting comments. People such as yourself attempt to shame posters for what they say in attempt to get them to stop posting it, thus creating a safe zone. Many of you so called positive fans attempt to censor this thread indirectly. You can have your god given right to free speech, so should others. You should stop attempting to indirectly censor people if you believe free speech is a god given right.
04-14-2016 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bukafax
People implicitly imply that they shouldn't be posting comments. People such as yourself attempt to shame posters for what they say in attempt to get them to stop posting it, thus creating a safe zone. Many of you so called positive fans attempt to censor this thread indirectly. You can have your god given right to free speech, so should others. You should stop attempting to indirectly censor people if you believe free speech is a god given right.

So, are you trying to censor me by saying this? CWIDT?

Don't make my points for me, its too easy. So you think my negative posts towards the negative posters are out of line? Listen mama's-boy, if you are going to spew the hatred, at least have a backbone to take what comes flying back at you because of it.

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04-14-2016 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
So, are you trying to censor me by saying this? CWIDT?

Don't make my points for me, its too easy. So you think my negative posts towards the negative posters are out of line? Listen mama's-boy, if you are going to spew the hatred, at least have a backbone to take what comes flying back at you because of it.
Reading comprehension at its finest.

I stated that all the negative posters are doing is stating views and opinions. They aren't attempting to throttle free speech from this thread.

Those against the posters you believe to be negative are going beyond views and opinions. You are indirectly attempting to censor views and opinions by shaming posters by stating things such as that its been posted so many times there is no need to post it.

Thats the difference between the two camps in this thread. The so called positive ones are attempting to indirectly censor the negative camp.

If you believe somebody trying to explain and uphold the right to free speech is in of itself censorship, you are an idiot. Censoring and attempting to uphold the freedom of speech from censorship are two different things. Say what you will but you know you are trying to create a safe zone to cull the people you dont agree with.
04-14-2016 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bukafax
Reading comprehension at its finest.

I stated that all the negative posters are doing is stating views and opinions. They aren't attempting to throttle free speech from this thread.

Those against the posters you believe to be negative are going beyond views and opinions. You are indirectly attempting to censor views and opinions by shaming posters by stating things such as that its been posted so many times there is no need to post it.

Thats the difference between the two camps in this thread. The so called positive ones are attempting to indirectly censor the negative camp.

If you believe somebody trying to explain and uphold the right to free speech is in of itself censorship, you are an idiot.

Listen, I'll make it simple so you can comprehend.

Are you trying to censor me by posting these negative things about me, and my posts?
04-14-2016 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
Listen, I'll make it simple so you can comprehend.

Are you trying to censor me by posting these negative things about me, and my posts?
No. I am trying to dissuade you from attempting to censor. Disagree with everybody, of course thats perfectly fine. Expecting and telling them to get out of the thread and stop posting what they do, thats censorship.
04-14-2016 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Haha I felt like I was watching one of those "found footage" horror movies.
Trooper97 vs. Zombies

#EpicMovie
04-14-2016 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bukafax
No. I am trying to dissuade you from attempting to censor. Disagree with everybody, of course thats perfectly fine. Expecting and telling them to get out of the thread and stop posting what they do, thats censorship.
Who did I tell to get out of the thread? I am just trying to "dissuade" them from posting the same **** over and over.
04-14-2016 , 08:25 PM
04-14-2016 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
Who did I tell to get out of the thread? I am just trying to "dissuade" them from posting the same **** over and over.
Right here is a direct example while there are too many to quote indirect examples.

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Originally Posted by Blackballed
You ridiculous tw*t.

I think you need to take some time away from the keyboard and the forum for awhile. Maybe improve your own life so you don't have to continually make derogatory posts to make you feel better about yourself.
04-14-2016 , 08:31 PM
FWIW, I am obviously a fan and also don't understand why Trooper is turning down the free coaching offers. If I say "Trooper, why didn't you snap accept that offer?" that does not make me a hater, because I am saying it because I want to see the guy succeed. Please stop nit picking and whining about the haters, what people said, what they want to censor, etc. IMO that is what is ruining this thread.

Now I am gonna watch the vlog.
04-14-2016 , 08:55 PM
Calling a raise with 54...Yikes. They must have been soooted right?
04-14-2016 , 09:01 PM
these poppy hip hop beats during the transitions have been awesome for weeks now. love the beat today
04-14-2016 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bukafax
Right here is a direct example while there are too many to quote indirect examples.
Firstly, lol to "too many to quote indirect examples."

Secondly, you miss the whole point of this conversation between you and me. Its about you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You want to to be able to criticize my posts (its just dissuading) but when I criticize other people's posts, you have a problem with it. (its censoring)

I don't really care if you think its censorship or not, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.

I enjoyed this thread before it became a cesspool of negativity and haters. And haters are like a mob that smells blood, the mob grows exponentially if left unchecked. If you don't like the fact I'm trying to keep it "in check" I couldn't give a flying ****.

I do actually realize you are different than a lot of the haters though. Its apparent most of them just ooze negativity. With you, I think you are just young, dumb and naive.
04-14-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
Firstly, lol to "too many to quote indirect examples."

Secondly, you miss the whole point of this conversation between you and me. Its about you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You want to to be able to criticize my posts (its just dissuading) but when I criticize other people's posts, you have a problem with it. (its censoring)

I don't really care if you think its censorship or not, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.

I enjoyed this thread before it became a cesspool of negativity and haters. And haters are like a mob that smells blood, the mob grows exponentially if left unchecked. If you don't like the fact I'm trying to keep it "in check" I couldn't give a flying ****.

I do actually realize you are different than a lot of the haters though. Its apparent most of them just ooze negativity. With you, I think you are just young, dumb and naive.
No I fully understand what you are trying to say. I just don't think you are understanding what I dislike. Of course I am onboard for you to say what you want to say. The quote I gave is a direct example of censorship. Have I ever told you to leave the keyboard? I have not once attempted to censor you. If anything I have encouraged discussion. All I was trying to get across was encouraging/shaming people to stop posing their thoughts is indirect censorship.

I know it might sound a little paradoxical but so is trying to rah-rah about your god given right to free speech when you are trying to withhold it from others, as shown in the quote i posted. What makes more sense for free speech? The person attempting to encourage conversation and kibosh censorship or the person attempting to censor what they don't agree with in a veil of free speech?
04-14-2016 , 09:17 PM
Well in defense of those offering advice, if he were crushing no one would have **** to say. But, when somebody is struggling its natural to point out what they may be doing wrong, so they can correct it and hopefully stop struggling. But, you guys make a good point that unsolicited advice can be annoying and is unlikely to be taken seriously. So I will shut up now and go back to being a silent observer ITT.
04-14-2016 , 09:29 PM
Instead of censorship, can we discuss the variety of Troop hats or something interesting?

      
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