I love how this has turned into a heated debate with all the lazy fatties trying to justify never exercising by attempting to make fun of those who enjoy a nice walk in the sun.

No. This is different , if walking was done for the exercise , ok. If walking was dome for the sightseeing , ok. If the walking was done to pick up chicks. Ok. I am going to assume this walking is being done because people are nitty about taking a cab . I do my fair share of walking in my city , but walking through my area , is enjoyable , hell even walking the strip has some enjoyment , but walking from lvb to rio is not enjoyable , and I highly doubt the real motive people walk it is for the exercise.

For awhile I lived right by the Rio, owned a car and had free parking, but I still would often walk to Bellagio so I could get the exercise. I thought the walk was fine. When it got to be June I had to stop though, it was just too hot, and this June is hotter than it was then.

Can't speak for others, but to me it is enjoyable. Not as enjoyable as doing it on a trail or in a nice neighborhood or at least without having the busy road right next to me and not as enjoyable as doing it when it's not freaking hot, but still gives me a couple of minutes to get my head free. I even prefer the traffic noise over the super annoying casino noise.

I am generally a cheap person, but am willing to pay extra to stay at a non casino hotel like Vdara just to avoid what others apparently enjoy.

I like how you characterize "the walk to/from Rio is a bad place to walk" as "never exercising." You have absurdly poor reading comprehension.

If you want exercise, wake up early, the hit pool, and do laps. You can also walk up and down the Strip. Both are way better options than walking Rio to Strip.

But all that aside, you (and others but primarily you) are trying real hard to pretend that saving $5 is a secondary rather than primary objective. Read through the thread. At what point does the financial aspect get first brought up? At what point does the exercise aspect? Which is the main motivation, and which is the afterthought?

And since you need some motivation to get this right, I'll post a multiple choice answer and you can pretend this is the SAT.

(a) OP wants to get from Rio to the Strip as quickly as possible, whether it costs more money or more physical effort.

(b) OP wants to get from Rio to the Strip as cheaply as possible, whether it takes longer or more physical effort.

(c) OP wants to get from Rio to the Strip burning the most calories, whether it takes longer or more money.

(d) Comprehending before posting is for fatties.

OP specifically doesn't want to use taxis or Ubers. What other options are you presenting him?

And I'd disagree that walking up and down the strip, at most times of day, is a better exercise option than walking to Rio. Walking down the strip is barely walking. It is plodding along in the middle of a mob of drunk tourists, being constantly interrupted by scam artists and various diversions away from traffic.

The walk to Rio certainly isn't scenic. But it is a perfectly decent walk for exercise if it isn't 115 degrees and you put on some good music or podcast.

After 3 pages, I still think the best recourse is to saddleback a ride with a lone stranger waiting for their Uber.

Dude we're poker players. Waking up early is not an option when we're up at 3 am bum hunting drunks and whales. Now you're contradicting yourself. You're going on a campaign to try to prove to everyone ITT that I walk to the Rio to save $5 which comes at what you're making seem like a HUGE opportunity cost (really it's like $15). But you're telling me to wake up early which comes at an even bigger opportunity cost because late night games as we all know are super +EV compared to afternoon games.

Also I don't need any motivation to "get this right" cause I have no reason to justify my actions to someone like you.


I Uber and Lyft all the time to get around. I'd never use a taxi though. It's the only way to get around town for me unless it's walkable and I'm in the mood for that.

I agree. I thought of walking in that area before, but saw a lot of cars going by at a high speed, and even though I thought it was unlikely that I'd get hit, I didn't trust the drivers enough in this town to make the walk. I feel safer walking in some of the worst parts of town. And I love walking and don't mind doing much longer walks than that.

Ditto. Walking is not the problem for me either , which speaking of , just got busted by James wood in a small tournament and decided to walk from valley view /viking ( the rio) and valley view / twain. Like an 8 minute walk. I dont know how you guys that do it all the time in this heat do it.

Well don't do it in the middle of the day in late June. The key is to at least survive in the tournament until after the dinner break.

Just getting burned everywhere.

i walk a lot when i'm in vegas. i've done aria to venitian plenty of times, even aria to wynn a couple of times. i've also taken cabs/uber/lyft for those same trips depending on my mood. walking helps clears my head and it's good for you.and depending on your ecact trip and what time of day it is it can be faster than getting a cab/uber. i've done rio to bellagio a few times as well.

with that said last week i was going from harrahs to the wynn which is a pretty fast walk, took 2 steps outside and it was disgusting out. went right back inside and got an uber.

Welcome to adulthood, where your ability to solve life's little problems is a pretty good indicator of your ability to solve big problems.

You can Lyft. You can take the bus. You can post on Craigslist asking for a free ride. You can hitchhike. You can go buy a bike. You can PM augie to see if he'll lend you a bike.

But most reasonably, you can decide what you really want and stop expecting there's going to be a perfect solution which is fast, convenient, and cheap. If your goal is cheap, suck it up and walk. If your goal is fast, suck it up and Uber. If you can't walk because of X and can't Uber because of Y and can't take the bus because of Z, maybe you can call your mommy and daddy and ask them for help.

Here's the catch: stop pretending. If you're cheap and don't want to spend money, walk, and don't pretend this is about sunshine brah or that everyone else is a lazy fatty. If you hate cabs/Uber but take one anyway because you are a lazy fatty, no need to make up excuses about how this really saves you money because you get more poker time.

Be honest with your choices.

There's always gotta be an excuse for everything, huh?

You make it sound like there's only one option from getting from the Rio to the Strip, and guess what - it just happens to be the cheapest one AND the absolute best way to get exercise! What a coincidence!

****, I thought I had quoted you in my previous post. I'd tell you to read my post above but that doesn't seem to be your forte so I'll recap but jump straight to the sarcasm.

Wah wah wah there's an excuse for everything, it's not an option to do something that 99% of the population manages to do like wake up before noon because I'm so balla that any small deviation to my perfectly tuned life has catastrophic effects.

This phrase probably doesn't mean what you think it means.

Not only do you not need to justify your actions to me, but - and despite what you may think I really mean this in the best way possible - I truly do not care about you.

Here's the difference between someone who has read my posts and someone like you - the former realizes I really don't have a strong opinion on what to do. Walking seems fine. Cabbing seems fine. Uber seems fine. Bus seems fine. I've walked. I've cabbed. I've Ubered. I've bussed. (I've never hitchhiked.) But what I haven't done is pretended any of those were anything other than what they were.

I walk for exercise sometimes, and sometimes it's just faster. I walk down the Strip and somehow manage not to bump into drunk tourists or weed sellers or porn slappers. If walking is a bad option, then I'll cab. And somehow I've managed to cab dozens of times without taking a detour to Zion like apparently everyone else does. I mildly hate Uber and think they as a corporate entity are a bunch of dicks but when I'm not near a cab stand and it's too far to walk, I act like an adult, swallow my pride, and call an Uber.

Walking from the Rio to the Strip is an option. If you decide it is for you, believe me, I don't care. But stop pretending it's anything but rarely the best option.

You're either Jason Bourne or Forrest Gump.... either way, I'm a fan.

Also, the sheer insanity of the direction this thread took is fantastic. Now I just need to figure out if the thread walked, took the bus or an Uber to get there.

FWIW, the right way to exercise outdoors in Vegas (no, walking a couple miles doesn't count as doing that) is to go running after playing poker. If you get going at 5AM, you can get in at least 10 miles on a quiet strip before it gets hot and/or busy.

I am reading your posts and they seem contradictory.
Is walking from the strip to Rio an OK option or not? If walking is fine, I don't think we are disagreeing.

I have no objection to taking Uber or Lyft (though I strongly prefer Lyft just based on their corporate policies). I've taken Lyft between Rio and the strip many times. It is fast, convenient, and only costs like $7 to Caesars or Bally's. In many circumstances, it is clearly preferable to walking.

However, OP specifically said he didn't want to use ubers, and I assume he is including Lyft in this. I was merely stating that walking was an option. I don't find it unsafe or unpleasant in most situations. I never suggested it was the best or only way to get exercise, or that not doing so make you lazy. You are the one claiming I am making a horrible life choice by doing this.

walking anywhere when the temp is 110+ is stupid.

Overheating your car's motor is a recipe for destruction. Overheating your body is the same.

But with ~8 billion people on the planet we can afford to lose a few. Darwin's theory up and working.

My posts are more about the reasons than the act. Walking is fine - but making yourself miserable by walking to avoid a small charge is questionable. And if you include the opportunity cost of playing poker and you're basically paying to make yourself miserable, that's lol.

If you're not miserable, more power to you. But "I'm getting sunshine and exercise!" is not exactly a convincing argument against misery, it's lying to yourself.

I apologize. For whatever reason I thought your post was LordRiverRat's, he was the one who was all sunshine brah and lazy fatty.

Really sorry about that.

It's not miserable. Yes it gets a little uncomfortable towards the end but it's far from miserable. If it didn't bring me pleasure I wouldn't do it. Why do I do it? Again, sunshine and exercise brah. More vitamin D and more dopamine means I'm less likely to get depressed, lose my self-esteem and go on stupid arguments on 2+2 for validation.

I think I'll walk to the gym today instead of driving.

From the far corner of Caesars (ie junction of W Flamingo and S Las Vegas Blvd) I did it in 16 minutes last week (on one of those stupidly hot days )

Proud of you! If more people had your attitude every third person in this country would be fat instead of every other person.

Well I'm English, but appreciate it nevertheless!

I took plenty of Ubers that week but appreciated the exercise despite the heat.