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Old 06-15-2012, 02:15 PM   #46
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

cuz I need a distraction from all my personal problems.. I am actually living in a nightmare, am super depressed and poker in vegas is the only thing that's gona make me forget about those .. Its just hard for me to explain, but I know the smart thing to do is to wait, but I just can't and I REALLY hope I can make it there and make a great story out of it too.. and more important make my dream come true!
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Old 06-15-2012, 03:39 PM   #47
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I will give the same advice that I've given to several other short rollers that talk about moving to Vegas. As someone who lived there for several years I know firsthand the lifestyle leaks the city has to offer. If you have any vices such as alcohol, titty bars, clubs, eating out, etc. Vegas will drain you quickly without a steady paycheck. The one advantage Vegas has over any other poker venue in the country is 20+ casinos within a few mile radius where you can find soft 1/2 - 1/3 NL poker. At this point you shouldn't even be thinking about 2/5 NL until at least 6-12 months from now. Not 1 session.

If you are intent on moving you need to set a budget. At a minimum you will need enough money to make the move and even cutting it close, a 3k bankroll. Let's say you need $1,500 to make the move from NC to Vegas considering gas, initial rent payments, and a few hundo for miscellaneous. A 3k roll would give you 15 buyins at 1/2 of $200.00. Additionally, you need to find a part-time job ASAP to help cover your monthly expenses at least. The best and easiest way is to get a serving/bartending job. These are helpful as you can always buffer a loss or get a couple extra hundo by picking up a shift or two.

If you move you will need to put in 50+ hour weeks grinding for at least the first 2 months to prove you can hack the long hours and beat low stakes live. If you have a nice run and feel the need to challenge yourself, play the 1/3 (500 cap) game at Wynn or Caesar's to cut your teeth on deeper stack play.

This would be the absolute minimum I would make the move if I were doing it in my 20's (4,5k reserved + a part-time job I can start day 1 when getting there). Good luck and hopefully you heed the advice you get in this thread.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:03 PM   #48
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:12 PM   #49
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

Poker is a game of logic. But when you tried this same thing 2 years ago with 10K and it didn't work out, how do you expect to do the same thing this time with MUCH less money?

OK, I'll give you that you have extra poker experience now but when I saw in one of your posts you claiming that your last 1/2nl session involved winning 1.6K in 12 hours, I clearly see that you have UNREALISTIC expectations of poker, especially in Las Vegas playing 1/2nl.

I love saying go for it but I can't support this current idea. I just feel so bad knowing that 7/8 or of 10 times, you will end up on a bus back within the week. I say bus, because most people who have to book last minute tickets end up taking Greyhound which take 3+ days to go cross country. Imagine 3+ days of transferring buses and spending layovers in dirty US bus stations. Dude, do yourself a favor and save up just 3-4K more and your odds of making it SKYROCKET!
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:16 PM   #50
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She is russian and no I am not lol.. I am from NC and after having a 9-5 job for 8 months now, I think It game me enough discipline that was very needed in poker
LOL. 8 months at a 9-5 job. Seriously, this makes you sound even LESS credible/sane. The fact that you survived ONLY 8 months at a 9-5 jobs shows that you DO NOT have enough discipline to make it in poker. 8 months is nothing.

I worked several years in a job where I put in 40-65 hours a week (usually on the higher end) and I still found it hard having to control MYSELF instead of having a boss you simply required me to be at work at certain hours.

You might be great with self discipline but saying that you only survived 8 hours PLUS saying that you know that the right decision is to wait but you just don't want to wait, are all signs that you have little to no self control. I hope you run well but it doesn't look good my friend.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:22 PM   #51
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

Since this isn't happening/failing since July, just erase this thread and start over in July so we can keep track of the 4 days it actually happens.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:51 PM   #52
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

why is everyone here so hard on these guys? OP is basically taking a vacation to las vegas. he's going to live with a friend and he starts a new job aug. 1. he's accepted the job. he's coming back. he needs a break from the real world (don't we all sometimes) and this is how he's dealing with his mental stress.

have fun OP.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:59 PM   #53
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Fleeing fish flashback.
That was a pretty funny thread. I wonder what ever happened to that guy?

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Old 06-15-2012, 10:10 PM   #54
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cuz I need a distraction from all my personal problems.. I am actually living in a nightmare, am super depressed and poker in vegas is the only thing that's gona make me forget about those .. Its just hard for me to explain, but I know the smart thing to do is to wait, but I just can't and I REALLY hope I can make it there and make a great story out of it too.. and more important make my dream come true!
If this is really how you feel you have no shot at long term success. Change the things in your life that make you depressed. This is only is only a temporary distraction. Once you go bust imagine how depressed you will be. My advise. Stay home, get happy, put together a real ****ing roll and then take a shot that actually has a chance. As it stands the current line on you making it a month is like +1200. Soft line? Gl anyway. And you better not jerk us off like codizzle.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:25 PM   #55
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Its surprising how many times codizzle has been mentioned on this thread. As of a few mins ago he is still MIA, FYI.

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Old 06-15-2012, 10:32 PM   #56
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

Well if someone was going to take a shot, the WSOP time would be the time to do it. Ashame you didn't come with a bit more to take some shots at the butter soft $1K and $1.5K WSOP events
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:25 AM   #57
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I will give the same advice that I've given to several other short rollers that talk about moving to Vegas. As someone who lived there for several years I know firsthand the lifestyle leaks the city has to offer. If you have any vices such as alcohol, titty bars, clubs, eating out, etc. Vegas will drain you quickly without a steady paycheck. The one advantage Vegas has over any other poker venue in the country is 20+ casinos within a few mile radius where you can find soft 1/2 - 1/3 NL poker. At this point you shouldn't even be thinking about 2/5 NL until at least 6-12 months from now. Not 1 session.

If you are intent on moving you need to set a budget. At a minimum you will need enough money to make the move and even cutting it close, a 3k bankroll. Let's say you need $1,500 to make the move from NC to Vegas considering gas, initial rent payments, and a few hundo for miscellaneous. A 3k roll would give you 15 buyins at 1/2 of $200.00. Additionally, you need to find a part-time job ASAP to help cover your monthly expenses at least. The best and easiest way is to get a serving/bartending job. These are helpful as you can always buffer a loss or get a couple extra hundo by picking up a shift or two.

If you move you will need to put in 50+ hour weeks grinding for at least the first 2 months to prove you can hack the long hours and beat low stakes live. If you have a nice run and feel the need to challenge yourself, play the 1/3 (500 cap) game at Wynn or Caesar's to cut your teeth on deeper stack play.

This would be the absolute minimum I would make the move if I were doing it in my 20's (4,5k reserved + a part-time job I can start day 1 when getting there). Good luck and hopefully you heed the advice you get in this thread.
very good advice, I might add try playing at TI because of the great grinding comps
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:10 AM   #58
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Re: Following my dream AGAIN! Moving to Vegas in July

TI comps I was going to mention.

but on the whole this isn't a following your dream move to vegas thread its a

I am depressed and want to run away from my problems so I am going to distract myself going to vegas extremely under rolled.

and about the girlfriend lol, that is you ending that not your parents, your 25 you should be making your own decisions and them worrying about her family being poor, I don't mean to make conclusions or be disrespectful but it doesn't sound like you are too wealthy with 2k to your name, so I would assume your family is not especially well off (again not judging making this post purely to help you as most in here are ) if they are making life decisions for you but not helping you out financially to fix the life problems you are running into.

on the whole this thing is absurd moving to vegas with 1 to 3k or whatever it will end up being especially after you failed before (failure is not a bad thing you can't reach success without failure btw I do understand that ) but it doesn't seem like you learned your lesson.

If you have proven results from keeping track of your play off and online then I could see the justification in making your move to vegas but why would you put yourself at risk with being under rolled, something the best of poker players can not overcome.

Failure is an opportunity to achieve success so use it like that and recognize that you still have a lot of things to learn from your first attempt that you obviously can't see.

but hey it sounds like you will have a good week vacation maybe 2 weeks if your lucky) which may be what you need to get over the girl problems, but not what you need if you want to achieve success in Vegas as a poker player.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:33 AM   #59
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I will give the same advice that I've given to several other short rollers that talk about moving to Vegas. As someone who lived there for several years I know firsthand the lifestyle leaks the city has to offer. If you have any vices such as alcohol, titty bars, clubs, eating out, etc. Vegas will drain you quickly without a steady paycheck. The one advantage Vegas has over any other poker venue in the country is 20+ casinos within a few mile radius where you can find soft 1/2 - 1/3 NL poker. At this point you shouldn't even be thinking about 2/5 NL until at least 6-12 months from now. Not 1 session.

If you move you will need to put in 50+ hour weeks grinding for at least the first 2 months to prove you can hack the long hours and beat low stakes live. If you have a nice run and feel the need to challenge yourself, play the 1/3 (500 cap) game at Wynn or Caesar's to cut your teeth on deeper stack play.

This would be the absolute minimum I would make the move if I were doing it in my 20's (4,5k reserved + a part-time job I can start day 1 when getting there). Good luck and hopefully you heed the advice you get in this thread.
I appreciate ur advice, and you are totally right about sticking to 1/2 and not moving up at all for a while.. putting long hours is fine, I played 60+ hrs/week when i lived in vegas before.. I have no problem with long hours of poker.. and about the partying thing, I've partied much lately and I can stay away from bars, clubs and all this and its so easy for me to do since I wont have much money anywayz Wish me luck

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Poker is a game of logic. But when you tried this same thing 2 years ago with 10K and it didn't work out, how do you expect to do the same thing this time with MUCH less money?

OK, I'll give you that you have extra poker experience now but when I saw in one of your posts you claiming that your last 1/2nl session involved winning 1.6K in 12 hours, I clearly see that you have UNREALISTIC expectations of poker, especially in Las Vegas playing 1/2nl.
Actually I had several session were I made 1.5k+ at 1/2 n 1/3.. Its not unrealistic cuz simply I did it and not just 1 or 2 times..


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why is everyone here so hard on these guys? OP is basically taking a vacation to las vegas. he's going to live with a friend and he starts a new job aug. 1. he's accepted the job. he's coming back. he needs a break from the real world (don't we all sometimes) and this is how he's dealing with his mental stress.

have fun OP.
Thanks man, this is exactly what am doing. I dont have anything to lose (well except 2k of smthing which i care less about).. I hope I make it, I believe I have a good chance.. I am not saying odds are on my side cuz they aren't but I think Its possible and I will DO MY BEST TO MAKE IT HAPPEN



>> And really guys thanks alot about the advice, but at the moment I need more tips.. I know what am doing is kinda dumb and risky, but its my decision and I dont have anything to lose (Imo) so I need support and more important is I need tips.. Like If any of you guys would be in my shoes and decided that he's gona do the same things, how will you do it..

Will you prefer smaller rooms (softer games) like TI, IP and harrahs or would you play at V or Ceasers (1/3) where there is more money on the tables.. Would you buyin for 300$ (I am a winning player and am more comfortable player deeper) or just 200$ or maybe 100-150 to have more shots.. Stuff like that.. Ideas about comps, food.. maybe a cheap bar to get a couple of beers every now n then..


I will go on with my story in a bit, Idk if any1 read or liked it, but am hoping so
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:49 PM   #60
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1/2 with 10 buy ins is 1/2. I'd prolly stay away from the 1/3 games. I mean, you have 10 buy ins. I'd prolly go to the store and buy groceries. No way can you survive eating junk/grease food on the strip or anywhere else. Buy sandwich meat and other decent **** at the store. Forget about drinks. You have 2gs and need to make money asap. Your whole plan should be all work and no play until you get a roll going. Time isn't on your side, because eventually bills and other things will catch up to you just from living, which is why 1/2 is the hardest to ever grind solely from. If you want a beer, act like you're playing slots or something and get a free drink, then tip the waitress a buck. Cheapest drink you'll find prolly, but don't drink while you play poker of course.
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