Take it down ....

Like it or not, dealer errors are part of the cost of doing business, both from the casino's side AND player's side.

If a dealer makes a (unintentional) mistake in favor of the casino that is not rectified, the player absorbs the loss. It is not stealing by the casino.

Those dealers are hired for their boobs, not their brains.

Wow, so that's why they had to close down!

This happened to me when I was very young and just started gambling. The dealer made a mistake in arithmetic and I corrected her. It was only a small amount, like 5 bucks, but she was very impressed with my honesty and kept commenting on it for some time afterwards. I should have hit on her (she was a solid 7.5) but I didn't think of it at the time.

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Obv that casino didn't think that player's future business was worth $500. Considering it was a Caesar's property I'm not too shocked. I would demand to see the video though.

They had to go to videotape for me once in Vegas because I was playing Sic Bo with some drunk Asians. I pulled my winning bet away, and they argued it was theirs. The sole dealer dealing with 8+ players simultaneously really had no clue who made the bet. The bet was $2 at 6 to 1 odds...lol Eventually I was given my winnings about 10 minutes later. So yes, Vegas can care about things like $12.

Karma suggests you bet the entire amount on the next hand, if you win then it's yours obv. Lose it back and no harm done.

If you believe it exists.

some drunken bj stories from this trip

was paying bj with a friend
he has like an 18 or something i busted
dealers has a 4, gets another 4 then a 5 and stops dealing and pays him lol

in any place with surrender we try and surrender early with an ace showing about 10 pct of the time it works

ive jokingly tried to surrender a 3 or 4 card 16, its worked a few times

one time friend was really drunk and is randomly betting 50-400 a hand
very quiet asian guy dealing
friend gets a 5 card 16 vs a ten and makes the surrender signal
dealer looks really confused and starts looking around for a floor
my friend yells"half back" guy seems nervous and pays him
this happens 4 or 5 more times on 3+ card 16s where the guy lets us surrender until my friend has a 400 dollar bet up there pulls a 3 card 16 and tries to surrender, at this point the dealer calls the floor and asks if its ok
i was bulll****ting with the floor about baseball for a while on a dead night, he seems to like us and says "just this time" and walks away

last night was playing in a place that has 3:2 and 6:5 games
one dealer was super quick, added everything up etc
i try and surrender a 3 card 16 while laughing knowing their is 0 chance she lets me
she says nice try
my friend says can you send us a novice dealer please
she told us they send all the knew dealers to the 6:5 game since the casino knows they will make more mistakes but they edge is 5 times as large so the game is still a joke even with the mistakes

i have given back money many times in stores and at the cage when i am overpaid
i was in west virginia and cashing out on my last day and somehow the dealer overpaid me by 3000 dollars
i will never be in that casino again so i easily could have kept it but i instantly gave it back
for me keeping overpayments in bj is different for several reasons

1)i used to count cards seriously
these days i stick to poker and the bj games have gotten a lot worse anyway
ive been kicked out of casinos a bunch of times for counting so basically **** them
2)im sure i have paid them when i pushed or won
when i get cash at the cage i always double check to make sure its right
if im playing bj these days its usually flat betting while drinking and there is no way im going to catch every mistake in their favor, so saying nothing balances that out
3)there is no way the casino is going to catch every mistake made at the tables, where as they will at the cage
4)casinos do all kinds of shady ****
6:5 games are bad enough, but theyll mix them into pits where there are a bunch of 3:2 games and hide a tiny as sign saying "bjs at this table pay 6:5" behind an ash tray and a box of tissues so again **** them

btw the reason games in places with dealers in bikinis etc are much worse (6:5 etc) is the casino knows people are playing those games to stare at tits and won't care about the odds

I play craps sometimes and I have always corrected the dealer when they over paid me.

I don' t judge what people do in these situations because I don't know how I would react if the dealer mistake involved an amount that was significantly meaningful to me.

In my book, this is not the same as 'stealing from Walmart'

Ok Browser, here's one:

You transfer a large balance out of your checking account to pay for big purchase. A day later, you use your checking card to pay for gas, forgetting there's only $10 in the account. You realize after you pump that you just overdrew you account and will be assessed a $50 charge. You check your statements x days later and the bank didn't charge you for an overdraft.

You call the bank to let them know they missed your overdraft, and you owe them $50?

There are times when phrases should be spelled out as opposed to using an acronym.


This is one of those times.

playing Craps you get underpaid/overpaid quite a bit because of the odd amounts and also constant changing of bets etc

I have always been honest though and everytime Ive been overpaid I throw the money back, and whenver I'm underpaid I always make it clear

It can go long way in a game like craps though, often a hardway or horn isnt taken down when it should, not that I've ever won from it but have def noticed them staying up for another go

Try this instead, it's more to the OP's situation.

The bank places $225 into your checking account by mistake (just as the dealer placed $225 next to the OPs chips by mistake).

You immediately realize it's a bank error. So do you spend the $225, or let the bank know so they can take it out?

Is that just a "cost of doing business" by the bank? They should have hired better computer operators? They should have better software designed so a mistake couldn't happen? Is it OK to spend it, because the bank will overcharge some other person $225, so it will all even out? Is it OK to spend it, because banks make a lot of money by giving people a low interest rate on their savings, but invest it for a higher rate, and that's not really fair, so **** "em?

You can see how silly the typical excuses for taking the money are when you apply them to another type of business. But for some reason, certain people want to view a casino as somehow different from any other type of business. They try and make the case that casinos are somehow evil, because the house games have a mathematical edge. So they absolve themselves of all responsibility for being honest when it regards a casino.

And after you spend the bank's money you were mistakenly given, then the error is discovered, see what happens if you refuse to repay it. I'm pretty sure no law enforcement agency will tell you "no problem, you're good to go, they should have hired better tellers".

While the moral issues might be the same, the practical issues are very different.

In your bank example, there's a very clear accounting trail, so it can always be discovered by the bank, even months/years down the line, in a way that's not going to happen in a casino. There's no randomness/luck in my bank account the way there is with a blackjack table, and that $225 could have been legitimately received just as easily (okay, slightly less easily) as not; there's no equivalent with my bank account. Again, there's the moral issue, but there's very different practical issues involved, and the same person might make two different decisions in the two examples.

When I used to play craps, I used to get paid a lot by dealers who would forget to take away a losing come bet in the middle of a roll. I always kept the money figuring somewhere along the line I got screwed and it evened out. One day, after getting paid when I shoudln't have, the boxman yelled at the dealer "what's that guy, your buddy?" but strangely didn't make me give the money back.