So, I'm curious why you are complaining about people calling your raises when you price your raises so small. I'm not sure if you understand the spots where you need to just scoop what is out there or are fielding additional callers. Your strategy is kinda stuck in a weird spot, and your actions and viewpoint are quite contradictory.

Your betting makes no sense at all because you are sitting on a 12k stack with the original raiser already putting a bet roughly equal to 10% of your stack in. Your decision not to push in for your three bet is the big mistake here. If he calls off for 12k with 3-7 preflop, that's fine and a terrible beat, but when he calls off with trips 7s against you after you got married to your hand and open shoved the flop, you made the mistake.

I am enjoying the trip report, but your poker fundamentals really need a bit of addressing if you really expect to be more of a winning player. You keep knocking other people's play, but you are giving them some of the opportunities to put those beats on you because of the way you play.

Ummmm.. what? Is this a level?

Hi,
I just got back from a 2 weeks trip to Vegas. I played a fair bit of PLO at Venetian (mostly) and Aria last week and the week before, so we might have played together.

I'm the Chinese dude who buys in short for 200 into both games. The Venetian game is really good for shortstacking due to the structure and how ppl plays. Aria games you can play looser and has more post flop plays. PLO games are all good but ofc you still need to know how to play well.

anyway good luck and have fun.

If I shove I'm just not going to get called that often. However if I make it smaller and shove flop I give him a chance to flop a top pair type hand or see a safe flop with his mid-pair and go broke. Saying I made a mistake because he flopped trips is ridiculous. Blinds were 150-300 (with 50 ante) and villain made it 1100. There was one caller and I made it 3400. So at this point there is 3400+1100+1100+150+500=6250 in the pot and its 2300 for him to call. So ignoring the possibility of the other player re raising, he is getting 2.7:1 on a call. Even if he gets my whole stack 100% of the time he outflops me, he's getting an additional 9000:2300 or about 4:1 for a total of 6.7:1 with implied odds.

Now since your fundamentals are so good I'm sure I don't have to remind you that even a smaller pocket pair isn't getting the correct odds to try to flop a set, so there is no way that 73, even suited, is getting the right odds to flop two pair/trips/flush/straight.

Lastly, when did I complain that he called my raise? I said I was laughing at how he could call with 73. I want that call all day.

Thanks man, yea I'm sure I saw you at some point. I'm still trying to figure out whether I like the Venetian or Aria game better. Venetian game seems to play a lot looser but I run bad there haha. Although I have done well at the Rio game and its basically the same structure as the Venetian just smaller since there is no bring in, the straddle is 5 and max buy in is 500 instead of 1k. The V structure is definitely better for short stacking.

LOL Aces never win LDO!

DJDiggy please come back and show us some killer fun-duh-mentals

honestly im shocked you even responded seriously to such a low level thinker lol YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOVED BRO TAKE THAT POT DEEEEOOOWWNN PRE WIT UR AA!

I think there is a difference in how the hand should be played in cash vs tourney.

In cash you don't need to jam pre-flop, especially if villain has a smaller stack. If the guy gets a lucky flop and win the hand, so be it, you will have many more chances to make it back.

However, with tournaments, one bad flop could knock you out. It's much better to jam all-in per-flop and just take the pot down. Because the danger of having an overpair is that it's hard to know when you are behind and one wrong read could lead to bust.

Cheers and good luck the rest of the summer.

S

Hey guys so headed over to the Aria today for some PLO. I called ahead this time to get on the list so once I got there it wasn't long and I had a seat. I got stuck early after getting it all-in with a flush against 2 pair, aces and kings. A king hit the river to give him a full house.

I built my stack up from there, never quite getting above even. About 5 hours in to my session I had two hands where I bet the flop with big straight draws and a short stack went all-in. Both times I had "sucker wraps" but was getting 3-1 and 4-1 respectively on the all-ins so I had to call, though I am still thinking about whether it was right to bet in the first place. I am going to post those hands in the PLO forum for those interested. Turns out I was roughly 43% to win each but I missed both times. The last pot of my night I was all-in preflop with 789T against AA34 (again I'm a slight underdog here at about 45%) and lost. So not a good night results wise but I think I actually played one of my better sessions.

A wrap is a straight draw that has more than 8 outs. An example would be if the flop came 89x and I have TJQx. I don't have a straight yet, but any 7,T,J, or Q gives me a straight. There are 4 7's and 3 of each of my other outs for a total of 13 outs. A "sucker wrap" is a straight draw like this but one which is on the bottom of the board. With our 89x flop, a sucker wrap is 567x. This hand has the same number of outs, but they are not as good of quality because they make straights that can be beaten by a higher straight, while the TJQx does not.

When I say I am getting 3-1 and 4-1, that means that the pot has 3 times the amount of money in it that I have to call. For example, if the pot is 300 and I need to call 100, I am getting 3-1. Since the bets were all-in, my equity in the pot needs to be at least 25% to call. For the pot where I am getting 4-1, I need 20%. So although I was less than 50% to win, the call is still profitable.

Thanks for reading!

lol...you guys are too easy... though I now expect a bit of a ban...

GL at the tables

Horrible session today. Only lasted an hour and 45 minutes. Didn't even make it to a PLO game. I was playing 2/5 NLHE while waiting for the PLO game. The first buy in lost was good play, second was horrible. I'm not going to say much else about specifics but suffice it to say that I'm pretty upset with myself right now for how I played my second buy-in. The last couple weeks have been pretty bad. It started out as just running bad but today I actually started to play bad because of it.

Taking the night off obviously and hopefully can hit it tomorrow with a clear head. I really don't like taking what basically is an extra day off since I need to get hours in, but playing bad hours is worse so I guess I need to take the lesser of two evils. Thanks for reading.

4bet more pre.. and I don't see why you would open shove on that board, what range did u put him on?

Ax, any pocket pair. I'm guessing not 73. There shouldn't be many 7s in his range.

Doesn't matter anyways. He's never getting called by worse.

Never? You think people are folding 88-QQ for a pot-sized shove on that flop? Come on. Think before you post.

He made it 3400 and was called in two spots. Round it off to 10K in the pot and he shoves 9K? Never the wrong play.