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Old 08-04-2012, 03:10 PM   #136
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You thread is the first one I go to every time I visit 2+2. Please keep the updates coming !!

Also, you probably are already aware of the AllVegas.com site, but if you are not, I find the site pretty useful.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:58 AM   #137
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You thread is the first one I go to every time I visit 2+2. Please keep the updates coming !!

Also, you probably are already aware of the AllVegas.com site, but if you are not, I find the site pretty useful.
Yea I have the app on my iphone. Its a decent reference point if I'm curious how x or y poker room structures certain games as far as rake/min/max/straddle policies but it doesn't really tell you what is running on a daily basis, just that they are the regularly spread games. For example, the 1/2 PLO hasn't run at Venetian more than a couple times for a few hours since the WSOP ended but is still listed as a "regularly" spread game.

Thanks again for the positive feedback, gonna write another update now.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:25 AM   #138
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I ended up taking Thursday off after all since I was pretty tired so nothing to report there.

On Friday I went to the Wynn without much of a concrete game plan. First I had to get a rewards card since it was my first time going there and they are not part of harrah's or MGM properties so I need a separate card. They gave me $10 free slot play for signing up so I did that for a few minutes and ended up making $7.58 on it. Obviously being the nit that I am, once I cleared the free play and could cash out I didn't do a single extra spin

After that I went to the poker room and checked out the games. There was one table of the 10/20 limit omaha 8 game going but I recognized 2 or 3 of the decent regulars from the 8/16 at the Venetian so I didn't think it would be a very good game. So the only other option was 2/5 but looking at the 2 tables they had running, neither of them looked very good and I don't like the fact that the max is $1500 for their 2/5 games, which just seems to attract aggressive players that like to play deep. So I just left with my $7.58 profit and went to the Bellagio.

Had a pretty good session at 2/5 at the B, I think I played really well and the cards went my way just enough to book a solid win. I was up pretty big early because of a couple big pots, then for a few hours I kind of hovered, and then near the end I lost a few small to medium sized pots. I didn't make any major mistakes and the pots I lost I feel I played correctly so I was pretty happy with the session.

Today, or I guess yesterday since its like 2am, I was back at the B again for 2/5. I again ran really well but didn't make a ton because I just didn't get paid off on any of my monster hands. I had a set, quads, and a straight flush all in one session but unfortunately never got paid off. There's really not a ton you can do when you smash the board and no one has anything to call you with. Besides those hands though I was really happy with my play. I'm getting a lot more confident with my plays and reads and I think having a long-term view and not worrying about results is helping me play better. I just keep telling myself that as long as I keep playing solid poker that the results will eventually take care of themselves.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:32 PM   #139
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. . . I'm getting a lot more confident with my plays and reads and I think having a long-term view and not worrying about results is helping me play better. I just keep telling myself that as long as I keep playing solid poker that the results will eventually take care of themselves.
Very mature approach to the game: game selection coupled with a long-term view and confidence in yourself.

Watch out boys, we got a winning poker player out there !!
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:01 AM   #140
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Headed over to the Red Rock on Sunday. I had been there before just to check it out but haven't played yet. They had two 2/5 games going and I got a seat right away in the must-move game. After about 15 minutes a couple people got moved and we got down to 4 handed and no one wanted to play short-handed except me so we all just got put on the list. Unfortunately I got stuck a buy-in during that 15 minutes.

Since I was 4th on the list with only 1 game going I played some 1/2 while I waited. Somehow it only took 10 minutes or so and I had a seat at the main 2/5 game, where I had about as much fun as I did at the must-move game. I got my AA cracked by the most aggressive player in the game in one of my first hands. I raised pre-flop and he and 2 others called. The flop came down K46 rainbow. I bet the flop and he called. The turn was an 8 and based on what I saw from him, I fully expected him to bet if I checked to him on the turn, at which point I would shove. It backfired and he checked back. The river came a 7, completing a backdoor spade flush (not sure if I explained what "backdoor" means but its when there is only one on the flop and both the turn and river are the same suit, allowing for a possible flush). I checked again and he bet. Because I had played my hand so weakly I thought I had to call, and I did and he showed 45 offsuit for a flopped pair of 4's and hit a back door straight.

Not too long after I flopped a flush with 45 of clubs in a limped pot. I bet the flop and was called, bet the turn and was called, and bet the river and got raised. I had the worst possible flush since the other clubs were the A, 3 and 7, and really I should fold there but I couldn't and of course was shown the K and Q of clubs.

I decided that was enough and racked up the few chips I had left and went home.

Today I was back at the Bellagio. I usually don't play Mondays but with taking Thursday off and having a short day yesterday I felt I needed to get some hours in. For some reason I was feeling tired all session even though I hadn't been playing very long. The first 3 hours of my session I won a bunch of small pots and chipped up a decent amount. I took a break for dinner and shortly after I came back lost a pot with QQ against a guy that had flopped quads. Luckily he was on a short stack so it didn't hurt too bad.

About an hour later the table got really bad. There were basically 5 decent tight players, a couple short stacks, and me. I had played 4.5 hours and had already been feeling tired so I decided just to pack it up, about even after losing the quads hand.

I didn't get as many hours in this week as I would have liked (28), but I really don't like playing if I'm tired because I just don't play well. I'm gonna try and put in some extra hours over the weekend to make up for it. Hopefully I will have a chance to play some non-holdem games one of the days, which I think should help to keep me focused.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:16 AM   #141
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Headed over to the Red Rock on Sunday. I had been there before just to check it out but haven't played yet. They had two 2/5 games going and I got a seat right away in the must-move game. After about 15 minutes a couple people got moved and we got down to 4 handed and no one wanted to play short-handed except me so we all just got put on the list. Unfortunately I got stuck a buy-in during that 15 minutes.

Since I was 4th on the list with only 1 game going I played some 1/2 while I waited. Somehow it only took 10 minutes or so and I had a seat at the main 2/5 game, where I had about as much fun as I did at the must-move game. I got my AA cracked by the most aggressive player in the game in one of my first hands. I raised pre-flop and he and 2 others called. The flop came down K46 rainbow. I bet the flop and he called. The turn was an 8 and based on what I saw from him, I fully expected him to bet if I checked to him on the turn, at which point I would shove. It backfired and he checked back. The river came a 7, completing a backdoor spade flush (not sure if I explained what "backdoor" means but its when there is only one on the flop and both the turn and river are the same suit, allowing for a possible flush). I checked again and he bet. Because I had played my hand so weakly I thought I had to call, and I did and he showed 45 offsuit for a flopped pair of 4's and hit a back door straight.

Not too long after I flopped a flush with 45 of clubs in a limped pot. I bet the flop and was called, bet the turn and was called, and bet the river and got raised. I had the worst possible flush since the other clubs were the A, 3 and 7, and really I should fold there but I couldn't and of course was shown the K and Q of clubs.

I decided that was enough and racked up the few chips I had left and went home.

Today I was back at the Bellagio. I usually don't play Mondays but with taking Thursday off and having a short day yesterday I felt I needed to get some hours in. For some reason I was feeling tired all session even though I hadn't been playing very long. The first 3 hours of my session I won a bunch of small pots and chipped up a decent amount. I took a break for dinner and shortly after I came back lost a pot with QQ against a guy that had flopped quads. Luckily he was on a short stack so it didn't hurt too bad.

About an hour later the table got really bad. There were basically 5 decent tight players, a couple short stacks, and me. I had played 4.5 hours and had already been feeling tired so I decided just to pack it up, about even after losing the quads hand.

I didn't get as many hours in this week as I would have liked (28), but I really don't like playing if I'm tired because I just don't play well. I'm gonna try and put in some extra hours over the weekend to make up for it. Hopefully I will have a chance to play some non-holdem games one of the days, which I think should help to keep me focused.
time for some run good.

not playing tired is extremely important. i can't tell you how often i wind up in the poker room at far from 100 percent. we can't be 100 percent all the time, but we should be at at least 80 percent when we sit down and be able to maintain that.

i just played a session thursday night where i was ready to stay home ... i was tired. had worked 6 hours of OT the previous two days and hadn't slept great. but i went and played anyway. it affected me for a couple of hours, but i straightened out.

you're there for the long haul - play when you feel up to it.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:46 AM   #142
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time for some run good.
You're tellin me.

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not playing tired is extremely important. i can't tell you how often i wind up in the poker room at far from 100 percent. we can't be 100 percent all the time, but we should be at at least 80 percent when we sit down and be able to maintain that.

i just played a session thursday night where i was ready to stay home ... i was tired. had worked 6 hours of OT the previous two days and hadn't slept great. but i went and played anyway. it affected me for a couple of hours, but i straightened out.

you're there for the long haul - play when you feel up to it.
Yea I agree.

Today I was already tired before dinner and decided I was gonna take a break, eat something, and come back see what happens. After another hour or so I still felt the same way so I left. If the game was good I might have had more motivation to play through it but the game was horrible so I didn't feel too bad leaving early.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:44 PM   #143
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Don't worry about "getting your hours in" or playing more today since you left early yesterday. Better to play when you are mentally ready to play well. And another note, the TR you're writing up is making an excellent poker diary. Make sure to read back over it from time to time and you'll be surprised what you learn about your own game.
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Don't worry about "getting your hours in" or playing more today since you left early yesterday. Better to play when you are mentally ready to play well. And another note, the TR you're writing up is making an excellent poker diary. Make sure to read back over it from time to time and you'll be surprised what you learn about your own game.
Yea I'm never going to force myself to play if I'm not feeling well but that needs to be balanced with getting enough hours in because in the long run, the more good hours I can put in, the more I get paid.

Thanks for that tip, I will definitely make a point to do that some time.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:04 AM   #145
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As promised, the last two days I have been playing some non-holdem sessions. Both have been at the Aria 1/3 PLO game that I played a few times during the WSOP. I had a small win yesterday and a small loss today netting at basically break even. As far as the game goes, I have sort of mixed feelings about it. On one hand, I like PLO a lot more than hold'em, but on the other hand, I have not been impressed with the game. As PLO games go, it is a pretty tight game, something I noticed even during the WSOP, which made me play mostly at the Venetian and Rio where the games were much looser.

There is still money to be made because in my opinion people are actually playing a bit too tight and predictably, but its not as good as if people are playing too loose. I think I am going to keep playing in this game through the weekend and see if it gets better as its a possibility that the game is just not that good during the week as with the hold'em games a lot of the times.

I'm hoping the game picks up during weekends because its a lot more fun to play than hold'em, and I feel like I've played well in it.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:18 AM   #146
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I've been playing the 1/3 PLO at Aria the last two days. Yesterday I got there at 5 and for some reason the game broke up at 7, probably because everyone left for dinner or something and there was no list. I was up a bit and was feeling really good so I was sort of disappointed that it broke. I stuck around for a bit and watched the Packer-Chargers game a little (thank god football is back!) and planned on heading to the Wynn for the 10/20 limit omaha hi/lo game if the game didn't fire back up by the time the football game ended. I also watched some of the 2/5 PLO game, which was absolutely action packed. I really wish I had the bankroll to play that game because it was really juicy. For those that may be confused why I can play 2/5 nl hold'em but not 2/5 PLO, the reason is that PLO is a much higher variance game. You need roughly double the bankroll compared to holdem. So basically to play 2/5 PLO, I need the same bankroll I would need for 5/10 holdem. With about 4 min left we started the 1/3 game 5 handed and the game got off again. Unfortunately for me the second session didn't go as well as the first, as I would lose what I won in the first session and then some. I'm still think I played well, however, so I was happy with my session overall.

Today I was back again and had a really good session. It was the biggest win since going back to PLO and uncharacteristically, it only involved 1 all-in pot. I took a bunch of pots down on the flop and turn and didn't lose any significant pots. I don't really have any hands to share because everything was really standard and so nothing really sticks out I guess. The game was a little better today than the last few days, but still pretty tame compared to most live PLO games. I have seen enough players making mistakes that I'm planning to continue playing it instead of 2/5 nl at least for a while.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:42 PM   #147
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Another good read. Thanks for keeping them coming.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:29 AM   #148
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Just been playing the 1/3 PLO at Aria again for the last couple days. Both days have been shorter that normal. Yesterday I was just really tired for some reason. I played for about 3.5 hours but I could not keep my eyes open anymore. I really have no idea what it was because I got enough sleep and my session was from 5-8:30 so not too late at night or anything. I had lost a bit after not connecting with any flops and decided just to go home.

Today I played about 4.5 hours, though I was feeling much better than I was yesterday. I won a decent pot with AAT3 after 3-betting pre-flop and taking it down on the flop. From there until dinner I basically bled down to my starting stack. Once I got back from dinner I took a hit in this hand: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...river-1233750/

The last hand of the night I picked up AAJT and re-raised preflop over a raiser and caller. The flop came T57 rainbow and I be the pot, committing myself to the hand. One player folded and the other put me all-in for what was less than a min-raise of my bet and I called. He had flopped a set of 5's, which held up through the river. I decided that was enough for the day and left.

I've enjoyed playing the PLO game this week, though about half my sessions have been like today's, where I fold all but a few hands and then on the few I do play I end up losing. I do feel like I'm playing well, and PLO is really high variance so its going to take a while to even out. I've played 10 days straight now so taking tomorrow off and then back at it Tuesday.
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Took Monday off and was back at the 1/3 PLO game Tuesday. I played for about 7 hours. I lost a couple medium sized pots and got stuck early. After topping off my stack I was able to build it back up to even, where I pretty much stayed until the last hand of the night. I had lost a bit since getting back to even and was planning on leaving once the big blind got to me. So in my last hand I pick up AA79 UTG and I limp. Another guy limps and then this super aggressive fish also limps. The button makes it 18 and I call. Now the aggro guy pots it to 90 and the button just calls. I raise the pot for about half my stack, and the aggro guy goes all-in and the button calls. The flop came all spades but my flush would prove second best after the super aggressive guy tables K5K9. I'm happy I got it in with the best of it but hands like that can be a killer after sitting there just hovering all day.

After my session I had a few beers with tmckendry, another poster here who is in Vegas this week and has been playing the PLO game. We ended up hangin out until about 5:30 am, so when I drove back to my apartment it was already getting light out which was kind of an interesting experience.

So today I got a bit of later start than usual, waking up just after 4pm. Headed to the Aria again for the PLO game and got sat just before 9. After maybe 45 minutes I won two hands within a few minutes, both against the same guy, doubling my buy-in in the process. I spent the next several hours mostly folding and calling a raise here and there but having to fold the flop. Ended the session with a decent profit and no hands I'm unsure about so all in all a pretty good day. I'm gonna get to bed now so I can hopefully be up some time before 4pm

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Old 08-16-2012, 09:46 PM   #150
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Took Monday off and was back at the 1/3 PLO game Tuesday. I played for about 7 hours. I lost a couple medium sized pots and got stuck early. After topping off my stack I was able to build it back up to even, where I pretty much stayed until the last hand of the night. I had lost a bit since getting back to even and was planning on leaving once the big blind got to me. So in my last hand I pick up AA79 UTG and I limp. Another guy limps and then this super aggressive fish also limps. The button makes it 18 and I call. Now the aggro guy pots it to 90 and the button just calls. I raise the pot for about half my stack, and the aggro guy goes all-in and the button calls. The flop came all spades but my flush would prove second best after the super aggressive guy tables K5K9. I'm happy I got it in with the best of it but hands like that can be a killer after sitting there just hovering all day.

After my session I had a few beers with tmckendry, another poster here who is in Vegas this week and has been playing the PLO game. We ended up hangin out until about 5:30 am, so when I drove back to my apartment it was already getting light out which was kind of an interesting experience.

So today I got a bit of later start than usual, waking up just after 4pm. Headed to the Aria again for the PLO game and got sat just before 9. After maybe 45 minutes I won two hands within a few minutes, both against the same guy, doubling my buy-in in the process. I spent the next several hours mostly folding and calling a raise here and there but having to fold the flop. Ended the session with a decent profit and no hands I'm unsure about so all in all a pretty good day. I'm gonna get to bed now so I can hopefully be up some time before 4pm
Thanks for the chuckle when you ended with the comment about being up before 4pm !!
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