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Old 12-18-2009, 02:20 PM   #26
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Re: Another kid Another dream tl;dr

This sounds awesome and I hope it works out for you man.
If u lose it all I guess it'll be a bit easier for you walk away, but what if u score big? What will you do then? Keep playing or go back and start a professional career?

I'm rooting for you and hope you score big. I like your writing style and who knows, maybe you can write a book about it or have a movie made =)
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:25 PM   #27
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this. Im not sure how frequently youve played in vegas, or how familiar you are with games, but 5/10 only runs in 3 or four places regularly...
That many? I thought it was more like 1 or 2, Bellagio and Wynn. It's on-and-off at the Venetian, I hear. Caesars, the same.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:53 PM   #28
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That many? I thought it was more like 1 or 2, Bellagio and Wynn. It's on-and-off at the Venetian, I hear. Caesars, the same.
I was thinking the B, the wynn and the V... afaik, its more "on" than off at the V -- i could be wrong though i dont get to the v that often, and im not an nl player.

No idea what i was thinking w/ 3 or 4, cause theres definitely isnt anywhere else that runs a regular 5/10 game.
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:34 PM   #29
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Well, I should be sitting at the bellagio right now with a fat stack of chips in front of me . Instead I'm sitting in my bed at my parents house in Chicago. **** you mother nature. My flight was supposed to leave from Cincinnati to Charlotte and then on to Vegas yesterday at 3, but apparently the whole state of North Carolina shuts down with the fall of a single snow flake. After redirecting my flight on another airline to Chicago, I came home for the night and am now flying out at 3 today (whether permitting). If the baggage services department at U.S. Airways is run anything like their Gate crew, I'm fairly certain my guitar and suitcase will not be accompanying me to Vegas.

As far as my game plan for the trip goes, I've modified it slightly after listening to everyone's advice. During the weekends I will still be playing no lower than 5/10nl and mostly at the Bellagio. From what I've heard those games are definitely beatable. During the week, especially when it's dead and the tables are occupied by regulars, I will probably just search for some deep 2/5 games. Anyone have any suggestions? I plan on checking out the Hard Rock game on tuesdays, but other than that I'm fairly clueless.

As to why I don't just take a shot at a tournament, to keep it simple, tournaments bore me. I don't enjoy the decisions your forced to make towards the later ends, aka shove or fold. And by don't enjoy I mean I'm pretty terrible at them. With that said I won't hesitate to hop in a medium priced tournament ($300 to $1500 buyin) if the structures good and I want a break from cash play.

What will I do if I happen to score big? Like any poker player I've dreamed of even having the opportunity to face that dilemma. The dream usually starts with me in a Lambo accompanied by Phil Laak's wike (which I drive flawlessly even though I can't drive stick), and ends with me living in Vegas at the Palms Hardwood Suite, playing poker and golf all day. In reality, I'm not sure what I would do. The only thing that's certain is regardless of how well or poorly I do this trip, I'll be going back to Ohio in January for my final semester of school. After that all bets are off. Be that as it may, in a perfect world, I would get a job with the flexibility and free time to allow me to do the things that I aforementioned in my dream.

Off to the airport. Hopefully I land in time to catch some of the drunken weekend warriors at the tables.
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Old 12-19-2009, 03:51 PM   #30
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2/5 at MGM is soft 24/7 from my experiences. Go there during the weekdays.
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:30 PM   #31
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If the baggage services department at U.S. Airways is run anything like their Gate crew, I'm fairly certain my guitar and suitcase will not be accompanying me to Vegas.
Useless Air? Watch for the guitar on craigslist.

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What's a wike? If you meant wife, Phil doesn't have one. He has a Jennifer Tilly, though. Don't worry about driving stick in a Lambo, just get a Gallardo. Hardly any of them are stick.

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Old 12-20-2009, 05:52 PM   #32
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Day 1

OíHare is surprisingly empty when I arrive at 1. Even a greater surprise is when my plane actually takes off on time, amidst all of the delays and cancellations. Somehow in a fairly crowded plane I was able to land a row with only me and one other guy. I had the window, he had the middle seat. Naturally, I expected him to move over once he realized no one was sitting in the aisle. Iím actually pretty sure itís a man law. But 20 minutes into the flight he was still snuggled up on my right shoulder. So I tapped him on the arm and politely said, hey dude I donít think anyoneís coming for that aisle seat if you wanna move over and stretch out a bit. ďNah Iím good man, I actually like the middle seatĒ. Who the **** likes the middle seat. The middle seat is the middle child, the ugly sister, Khloe Kardashian. No one is ever supposed to like the damn middle seat. Whatever.

4 hours later we touch down in Vegas and Iím off to NOT find my bags. As predicted they are nowhere to be found. What I didnít expect is that the airline has no idea where they are. Last time they were scanned was Cincinnati. Great. To make matters worse the only outfit I have is the one Iím wearing, sweatpants and my blue Obama T. If you ever want to feel like a complete slob I highly recommend walking through the Bellagio on a Saturday night in sweatpants. I can only imagine what Maurice at the cage thought when a kid in pajamas who doesnít even know his social security number tried to withdraw thirty thousand dollars.

Eventually I get my money and head over to the poker room. Four games of 5/10 are running and within 20 minutes Iím sitting down. Initially, it was a little intimidating. Most people were sitting with over 3,000 and everyone knew each otherís name. It felt like ****ing Cheers. About an hour later, a few regulars were replaced with tourists, significantly helping my comfort level. For two hours I played basically zero interesting hands and was up about $200 from C-Betting, when I encountered my first interesting spot.
New (definitely recreational) player limps UTG+1. BTN and SB follow. I make it 60 with red Aces in BB. UTG and BB call. Flop JdTd4x. I bet 120, UTG calls with about 500 back. Turn Jx. I check, he bets 150. Too many combinations of draws he could have, as opposed to combinations of Jís. I shove, he thinks, folds. Up about 600 now.

New internet kid sits down to my right and recognizes the guy to my left. Apparently heís part of Poker Road and signed to Ultimate Bet (blanking on his name though). Internet kid spends the next hour or so trying to impress him with his knowledge of the online poker world. Very uncomfortable. Like Michael Scott photo-shopping himself into a picture of his girlfriend and her kids uncomfortable.

Anyways a bit later I pick up KK and raise in MP to 30. Euro on the BTN calls and so does BB. Flop QsTsTx. I bet 60, BB makes it 200, I call. Turn is the Awful 9s, I donít have the Ks. Check, Check. River is the equally awful 7s. I check, he bets 250 and I fold. Normally, I would spend the next ten minutes replaying the hand in my mind, thinking of better lines I couldíve taken. But I couldnít concentrate because, I kid you not, the Ghost of Billy Mayes sat down in the 10 seat. Exact replica of the fallen legend.

Billy turned out to be a pretty big spot at the table, doing a lot of limping and calling out of position. A couple orbits into his stay he raised to 20 (lol) in MP. 3 people call as do I in BB with AdTs. Flop Qx9d3d. Checked around. Turn Qd I lead for 80, Billy calls. River 5d and Billy issues all of the live tells for liking the card (looking at his chips, shaking), so I check it to him. He bets 120 and I make it 260 more, knowing he wonít fold a big flush. He calls with the Kd and I ship a pretty decent pot.

Up about 800 at this point Iím feeling pretty good when I get KK in the SB. Internet player opens to 50 and I make it 150. We see a flop of 6x8c9c. I bet 200. He calls. Turn is the Qx and I make a mistake and check. He checks back and the river is the 5s. After another check he bets 330. I donít really see a hand Iím beating and lay it down. He later tells me he had 67 suited.

I double up Billyís short stack later when my AJ canít hold against his flush draw on a J high board and realize Iím pretty exhausted. I pick up my chips and head back to my room at the Signature, up a measly $200, before I turn this into a losing session.

Right now I think my main problem is assessing 3-betting and 3-betting calling ranges. In my normal game a 3-bet is almost always 1 of 3 hands and thatís clearly not the case in this game. Hopefully today goes a bit betterÖ
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:51 AM   #33
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Well reported. Please keep frequent updates coming.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:49 AM   #34
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Nice TR

Name that slipped your mind - Joe Sebok?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:03 AM   #35
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No just remembered it's Bryan Devonshire. Hadn't heard of him before, but he's a real nice guy and fun to be at the table with. Not to mention a strong player.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:48 AM   #36
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Yes, keep up the updates, threads like this are fun to read
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:06 PM   #37
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Nice update and hope you keep 'em coming.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:09 PM   #38
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Day 2

On my way to the Bellagio I stopped by the Miracle Mile shops at Planet Hollywood. Very impressive. From what I saw they have just about every store one could need. My personal search was for a pair of non-prescription glasses. My eye sight is as 20/20 as Barbara Walters. But ever since November when the sexiest girl in my Stats class had me try on her glasses and told me I looked cute, Iíve made a note-to-self to get a pair ASAP. My roommates proceeded to question my sexuality. But as Anmier at Quality Eye Wear explained, the nerd look is in! Plus Lebron does the same thing. You hear that roommates? LeBron does it. Is he a ***. I didnít ****ing think so.

After finding a perfect pair of half-framed Tag Heuerís I was all set to check out, when I realized I hadnít even looked at the price tag yet. Whatever, canít be anymore then what $200 dollars? 475! I havenít even won any money yet Anmeir, Iím gonna have to come back at a later date.

With an empty face I head over to the B. 3 5/10 games running, shouldnít be any longer then 10 minutes, the floor manager Pete tells me. To pass the time I stroll over to the sportsbook to check out the football games. My Bears were about to start and the B had them as 11 point dogs. Its been snowing non-stop for 3 days in Baltimore. I donít care whose playing, their might not even be 11 points scored the whole game. I donít sports bet but I have plenty of friends who do. I text all of them ďBears getting 11 stone-cold lock.Ē As a couple text back confirming the pick my name is called in the poker room.

Only one familiar face at my table, the internet kid with the Bryan Devonshire fascination. First orbit I raise in LP with A9 to 40, he 3-bets me very quickly to 120 on the BTN. Like suspiciously quickly. Canít be that strong, I pop it up to 320. He mumbles to himself for a few seconds and folds. Iím not going to be run over today.

A few hands later I pick up AQ on the BTN. After a few limpers I make it 60 and 3 people call, including the SB call. Flop J 7 4 rainbow. Sb leads 150, all folds back to me. Good spot to represent a big pair. I make it 400. He thinks, flashes me a J and says this is no good huh, thinks some more and shoves all-in. WTF. Who shows cards and THEN shoves. Not that it matters I only have A high. I Hollywood for my table image for a few seconds and then fold.

At this point it all went downhill. For like 3 hours Iím not sure I won any hands, and I was involved in quite a few. I wish I had hands to describe, but honestly the last thing I wanted to do after getting crushed hand after hand was jot down how badly I suck. Most, however went like this. 2 people limp, I raise marginal hand in later position to 60. I flop Mid-pair, checked to me, I bet, someone raises I fold.

At this point my confidence was pretty low. Not winning a hand for a few hours and watching everyone and their mom check raise you, can really make you question whether you belong in a certain game. Not to mention I glanced up at the T.V. to see the Ravens putting a whooping on the Bears. Sorry guys!

In for about 2300 and sitting on a 1200 dollar stack I finally hit a good flop. With K9 I opened to 40 in the CO. Only the table fish in the BB called. Heís been doing a lot of limping and a lot of calling. Your standard fish. Flop comes 987. ****ing finally. He check calls 60. Turn is the very pretty 10. Awesome, hopefully he caught some sort of straight. He checks and I fire out 110, he thinks, looks like he wants to fold, but puts in 110. River came the 4. After another check, I put out a bet of 220. He thinks and just puts the remained of his cash in the middle, 400 I believe. I call the raise and turn over my King high flush, only to be trumped by his A5. Great. Just what I needed.

I go for a walk. Iím not sure exactly where, but I do a lot of talking to myself and have to appear semi-crazy to onlookers. Down to about 600 dollars and stuck about 1700, I tell myself Iím going to play short stacked until broke and then call it a day. I see a cute masseuse and tell her I would like a rub down. Not the best decision financially, but damn it felt good. Mid massage, Sasauna (the masseuse) asks me if anyone has ever told me I look like Jude Law. Was she just trying to earn her tips, probably. Do I care, absolutely not. For the rest of the day Iím Jude ****ing Law.

With my confidence refurbished and my shoulders loose, I start playing care free. Just as I had earlier when I didnít win a hand for 3 hours, but this time my C-Bets work. Chip after chip, pot after pot, I work my way back up to 1300 when I get a chance at revenge against the Fish. I raise to 30 UTG w/ QT and 6 people call. Flop comes KJ5. Jackpot. I lead for 120. Fish calls, so does the SB. Turn is the T. Checked to me I bet 250. Fish calls and the small blind folds. One time can I please get a god damn club. River is the Jack. Great, just ****ing great. I check, and fish bets out 300. Weird. Heís not smart enough to value bet a K. So I guess itís either a J or clubs. Would he really call two bullets with just a Jack? I call. Fish quickly mucks. Phew.

2 hands later I pick up AA on the BTN. I make it 60 after a couple limps. The fish and one other come along for the ride. Flop Q 8 4. Fish leads 80, I make it 200. He calls quickly, with his final 350 behind. Turn is the 6 and I shove. He calls and shows QT. The river comes a Jack and I rake in another decent pot.

Jesus so this is what a rush feels like. While it goes fairly unnoticed to the others who are more accustomed to the swings of this game, I've just won 1500 dollars in five minutes, and 2200 in a little more than an hour. You don't see those kind of swings at 1/2.

After another hour or so of folding, I call it a day with a 600 dollar profit. Not quite the level Iím looking for yet, but damn does it feel good after being stuck most of the day.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:06 PM   #39
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for the rest of the day I’m Jude ****ing Law.
this demands a custom undertitle imo...

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Old 12-21-2009, 06:16 PM   #40
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Iím a senior in college now. I passed up a chance to play college golf, I barely hold a C average, and I lack motivation. Iíve got no girlfriend, no prospects, and nothing on the horizon. Unknowingly, I gave up everything for the stupid poker pipe dream. Every morning I open my eyes and hear Cosmo Kramer asking me If I ďhave any conceivable reason for waking up in the morning?Ē I am Costanza.

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The game has stolen the majority of my youth, and left me with nothing but dirty money and a Christian Bale like anger problem. I look at the self proclaimed ďregulars (lol)Ē (as if that makes it okay to be a fat, smelly, worthless *******) who stroll into my local casino daily, unshowered and unhappy, taking out their anger in the form of snide remarks to the dealers and waitresses, and wonít let that happen to me (hope Iím not offending any 2p2ers).
You should find a good therapist and deal with your anger issues first. You will never succeed at poker with these kinds of thoughts going on.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:23 PM   #41
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Great stuff, keep it coming.

And let's just hope that she didn't mean the rat-faced Jude Law of Road to Perdition.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:00 AM   #42
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Great Read.

Just some advice, you want to show down a good hand before you start Bluffing big IMO because there are too many fish that will just call you down for the hell of it.

Also, if you are at a table and everyone starts check raising you and calling you down, for whatever reason your image has taken a hit and it is best to just change tables and start fresh (unless of course, you liked being checked raised by everyone and called down all the time.) or if you insist on staying at that table, you've got to nit up for a while.

Anyways, hope you keep kicking ass.

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Old 12-22-2009, 03:27 AM   #43
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Nice read, thanks.

Not that I'm a great expert, but some of your pre-flop raises AFTER several limpers seemed a bit small FWIW.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:28 AM   #44
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Good sh*t. Sounds like you kind of got bailed out this session while you were tilting away the rest of your stack. You obviously have the skill set to beat the game, so the only thing that worried me is when you mentioned that you were willing to play shortstacked until you went broke. This is the wrong mindset to take!!! You need to always have a full (or at least close to full) stack at the table and never under any condition be satisfied with throwing away your last X amount of money because you took some sh*tty beats earlier. Glad to hear you made a comeback though and keep up the good work, +800 over 2 sessions is nothing to be ashamed of!
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:25 AM   #45
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Nice thread, OP. Keep it up!
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:19 AM   #46
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One more thing. Im from Europe but have been to Vegas eight times. Almost always with a bunch of friends but next time Ill probably go alone, so I can focus 100% on poker. Only drawback is hotel expenses that obv wont be split among others this time. How much do your three weeks at MGM Signature (hope I remember right) cost you?

Ive looked at Panorama too, and its about $2000 for a furnished apartment I think. If anyone have any other suggestions please tell me. Thanks!
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Hey Man

Good luck on the 5/10 venture. If a 2200 uptick is big for you, get prepared for some larger swings (+/- EV).

Looks like you are playing pretty tight games, this time in December not as many tourists. Open raises to 30 at a 5/10 table? I rarely ever see that in East Coast games, but havent been to Vegas in a while

Are you going to be in Vegas alone for Xmas and NYE? I would say take all of Xmas off, talk to family on the phone, go to a nicer bar and commiserate with the staff about being away from family for the holidays, and try to close a cute bartender...

If all else fails strip clubs are a fail safe for all problems.

Also either plan on partying hard on NYE's or set your self up for some deepstacked 5/10 and try to take advantage of drunk NYE tourists

Vegas (and more importantly the games) should pick up significantly starting in January as well
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Day 3

On my way out to Bellagio I made a pit stop at the New City Center. While I had heard mostly negative reviews, the place was incredible. The mall was the nicest Iíd ever set foot in, Lined with stores with names in other languages. The true sign that I didnít belong in any of them. In fact when I approached the Porsche store (didnít know the car company made clothes) I was met by the glaring eyes of the sharp dressed worker. We didnít exchange any words, but we both left with the understanding that Iíd be better off taking my business elsewhere. First time Iíve ever been intimidated in a mall. The casino however, was quite interesting. There were no lights. It was awkwardly dark. Iím sure theyíve done their share of research and have their reasons for the light level, but at 3pm I personally donít want to feel like Iím walking down Las Vegas Blvd at Midnight.

But one degenerate can only take soo much walking without action, so after an hour of being a tourist, it was off to Bellagio. There was only 1 5/10 game running which concerned me. But after examining the lineup there was nothing to be scared of. The stacks were shallow and the action fairly tight. And to my delight, the fish from yesterday was sitting in the 3 seat with a pretty healthy chip stack.

I sat down in the 8, and like the days previous spent the first hour or so becoming acclimated with the competition. Down a few hundred dollars I encountered my first interesting spot. 6 limpers to me in the big blind and I check my Q5. Flop comes 557. I lead for 50 and am called by an older gentleman on the button. Turn is a 2 and I bet out 100, to which I am met with a raise to 300. Time to give him a range. Iím projecting a pretty strong hand, so for him to bluffing a paired board is just suicidal. I determined that on the BTN he could have A5, 77, 56, or 54. Eh Iím beating half his range, I call. River is a 10 and he bets 400 when checked too. With my hand pretty much face up; this is where I made my first mistake. Betting 45 and 56 in his position is soo thin, but I got stubborn and called. A5, obviously. I broke my first rule of live poker, donít go broke in limped pots.

Down a buy-in I reload back to a 1300 dollar stack. A couple hands in I pick up Q8 on the BTN and enter the pot as the 4th person to limp. Blinds call and we see a flop of KT8. Checked around. Turn is an 8. Checked to me I bet 50. UTG comes back with a raise to 125. Great, this is happening again. I call cause well Iím a fish. Being the lucky fish I am, the river puts up a Q. UTG leads for 150 and I put him in for his final 150. He calls quickly and shows AA. Really? I guess he wasnít paying attention to my "donít go broke in a limped pot" rant.

Up to roughly 1800 I get involved in a pot with everyoneís favorite fish. New day, same terrible player. I raise in MP with 89 to 50 and he calls in the BB. Flop comes 47Q and I CBet 80. Fish thinks uncharacteristically long, wants to fold and calls. He cannot have a Queen the way he reacted. Turn is the 2 and I make it 200. Again, the Salamander thinks forever, and calls. River is the 8. He checks a final time, and being sure that he doesnít have a Queen I see a good opportunity for some thin value. 350. He calls before I even get my money in the pot. 67.

I smile in a ďare you ****ing serious, did I just value-own myself against a fishĒ way. He responds with ďSorry bro, you know Iím just a tourist. You know Iím making that call.Ē I immediately regret my condescending smile. Any kind of behavior that makes a fish question the way heís playing is terrible for the game. I want to tell him that Iím pissed at the cards for the way they fell, and at myself for betting the river, but certainly not him for being a fish. Instead, nice hand is all that comes out.

Down to about 1000 I pick up KK in MP and raise one limper up to 60. Old man in the CO, BB, and limper all call. Flop comes 2 6 8. I fire out a bet of 180. Folded back to the original limper he makes an over-bet shove that can seemingly only mean one thing. Flush draw. Having me covered I have to make a decision, gamble for all my chips or wait for a spot with the Salamander. Eh I didnít come to Vegas to grind, I came to push edges. I call.

The turn is a T and my heart sinks. The old man reaches for his cards before the hand is even over, which can only mean one thing, the nuts. A4. Broke and tilted I take off for the day. 2300 dollars poorer. Yesterday I splurged at Wolf Gang Puck, today I had a number 1 with fries at Mcdís.

After finishing my meal and watching some TV in my room I decide Iím clear-headed and emotionally stable enough to head out for a night session. Sick of Bellagio I head to Venetian to work out some kinks in my game at the deep 2/5 game. Buying in for 1000 Iím fairly dominant from the start. After losing 300 in another limped pot with 2 pair to a better 2 pair (I know again), I play very strong aggressive poker. Iím clearly the table captain and reaping the benefits.

My aggressive play had become lost in the midst of my 5/10 sessions. I wasnít applying enough pressure in ďcloseĒ situations, preferring to give up before firing another bullet. A great poker player can only achieve the same success at higher stakes if he is able to eliminate the value of the dollar from the game and view the chips as weapons and a means to an end. This is a skill I must master if I am to return to the 5/10 game and be successful.
My Venetian night ended by seeing a $30 flop with 2 opponents with 88. The flop came the beautiful K84, and my bet of 40 was check raised to 200 by the original raiser. Perfect. AA or AK. I call. Turn is a blank and he pushes in his final 300. I call and avoid an Ace on the river to crack his pocket rockets. I end the session a 1250 dollar winner and feeling a lot better about my game then I had merely hours before.

As of 2 oíclock Today I have yet to decided if I will return to the B to battle the Salamander or head to the V where Iím way more comfortable with the stakes. Either way, Iím confident that Iíll be able to get back on the winning track. Iím currently down about 300 dollars for the trip after Yesterdayís mess.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:35 PM   #49
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As of 2 o’clock Today I have yet to decided if I will return to the B to battle the Salamander or head to the V where I’m way more comfortable with the stakes. Either way, I’m confident that I’ll be able to get back on the winning track. I’m currently down about 300 dollars for the trip after Yesterday’s mess.
Great post.

I'm a live player and you are learning the joys and frustrations of live play. And also how hard it is to just keep your mouth shut.

Also, you are now seeing how hard it is to keep your ego out of the equation. I get the feeling you are itching to go back to Bellagio to 'prove' that you can beat that game. F--k that. Seriously, stay where you are winning. If you are winning at the V, then stay at the V. If you are killing the 2/5 game then play 2/5.

One of the hardest things about live play is the emotional aspect, especially ego.

You could set a goal. Say if you get up $3K then take another shot at 5/10 but do it at the Wynn or Venetian and just let Bellagio go.

Why am I so intent on you letting Bellagio go? Ego. Your ego will keep you from playing your best game. You'll go there with a chip on your shoulder...

Anyways, good stuff. Keep it coming. And if you are having a good day, below is a little bit of degeneracy that if hits, you will get your rooms comped not to mention make some bank. But like I said in the post below, you can only do this with house money.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=12
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On my way out to Bellagio I made a pit stop at the New City Center. While I had heard mostly negative reviews, the place was incredible. The mall was the nicest Iíd ever set foot in, Lined with stores with names in other languages. The true sign that I didnít belong in any of them. In fact when I approached the Porsche store (didnít know the car company made clothes) I was met by the glaring eyes of the sharp dressed worker. We didnít exchange any words, but we both left with the understanding that Iíd be better off taking my business elsewhere. First time Iíve ever been intimidated in a mall. The casino however, was quite interesting. There were no lights. It was awkwardly dark. Iím sure theyíve done their share of research and have their reasons for the light level, but at 3pm I personally donít want to feel like Iím walking down Las Vegas Blvd at Midnight.

But one degenerate can only take soo much walking without action, so after an hour of being a tourist, it was off to Bellagio. There was only 1 5/10 game running which concerned me. But after examining the lineup there was nothing to be scared of. The stacks were shallow and the action fairly tight. And to my delight, the fish from yesterday was sitting in the 3 seat with a pretty healthy chip stack.

I sat down in the 8, and like the days previous spent the first hour or so becoming acclimated with the competition. Down a few hundred dollars I encountered my first interesting spot. 6 limpers to me in the big blind and I check my Q5. Flop comes 557. I lead for 50 and am called by an older gentleman on the button. Turn is a 2 and I bet out 100, to which I am met with a raise to 300. Time to give him a range. Iím projecting a pretty strong hand, so for him to bluffing a paired board is just suicidal. I determined that on the BTN he could have A5, 77, 56, or 54. Eh Iím beating half his range, I call. River is a 10 and he bets 400 when checked too. With my hand pretty much face up; this is where I made my first mistake. Betting 45 and 56 in his position is soo thin, but I got stubborn and called. A5, obviously. I broke my first rule of live poker, donít go broke in limped pots.

Down a buy-in I reload back to a 1300 dollar stack. A couple hands in I pick up Q8 on the BTN and enter the pot as the 4th person to limp. Blinds call and we see a flop of KT8. Checked around. Turn is an 8. Checked to me I bet 50. UTG comes back with a raise to 125. Great, this is happening again. I call cause well Iím a fish. Being the lucky fish I am, the river puts up a Q. UTG leads for 150 and I put him in for his final 150. He calls quickly and shows AA. Really? I guess he wasnít paying attention to my "donít go broke in a limped pot" rant.

Up to roughly 1800 I get involved in a pot with everyoneís favorite fish. New day, same terrible player. I raise in MP with 89 to 50 and he calls in the BB. Flop comes 47Q and I CBet 80. Fish thinks uncharacteristically long, wants to fold and calls. He cannot have a Queen the way he reacted. Turn is the 2 and I make it 200. Again, the Salamander thinks forever, and calls. River is the 8. He checks a final time, and being sure that he doesnít have a Queen I see a good opportunity for some thin value. 350. He calls before I even get my money in the pot. 67.

I smile in a ďare you ****ing serious, did I just value-own myself against a fishĒ way. He responds with ďSorry bro, you know Iím just a tourist. You know Iím making that call.Ē I immediately regret my condescending smile. Any kind of behavior that makes a fish question the way heís playing is terrible for the game. I want to tell him that Iím pissed at the cards for the way they fell, and at myself for betting the river, but certainly not him for being a fish. Instead, nice hand is all that comes out.

Down to about 1000 I pick up KK in MP and raise one limper up to 60. Old man in the CO, BB, and limper all call. Flop comes 2 6 8. I fire out a bet of 180. Folded back to the original limper he makes an over-bet shove that can seemingly only mean one thing. Flush draw. Having me covered I have to make a decision, gamble for all my chips or wait for a spot with the Salamander. Eh I didnít come to Vegas to grind, I came to push edges. I call.

The turn is a T and my heart sinks. The old man reaches for his cards before the hand is even over, which can only mean one thing, the nuts. A4. Broke and tilted I take off for the day. 2300 dollars poorer. Yesterday I splurged at Wolf Gang Puck, today I had a number 1 with fries at Mcdís.

After finishing my meal and watching some TV in my room I decide Iím clear-headed and emotionally stable enough to head out for a night session. Sick of Bellagio I head to Venetian to work out some kinks in my game at the deep 2/5 game. Buying in for 1000 Iím fairly dominant from the start. After losing 300 in another limped pot with 2 pair to a better 2 pair (I know again), I play very strong aggressive poker. Iím clearly the table captain and reaping the benefits.

My aggressive play had become lost in the midst of my 5/10 sessions. I wasnít applying enough pressure in ďcloseĒ situations, preferring to give up before firing another bullet. A great poker player can only achieve the same success at higher stakes if he is able to eliminate the value of the dollar from the game and view the chips as weapons and a means to an end. This is a skill I must master if I am to return to the 5/10 game and be successful.
My Venetian night ended by seeing a $30 flop with 2 opponents with 88. The flop came the beautiful K84, and my bet of 40 was check raised to 200 by the original raiser. Perfect. AA or AK. I call. Turn is a blank and he pushes in his final 300. I call and avoid an Ace on the river to crack his pocket rockets. I end the session a 1250 dollar winner and feeling a lot better about my game then I had merely hours before.

As of 2 oíclock Today I have yet to decided if I will return to the B to battle the Salamander or head to the V where Iím way more comfortable with the stakes. Either way, Iím confident that Iíll be able to get back on the winning track. Iím currently down about 300 dollars for the trip after Yesterdayís mess.
Stick to the 2/5 game. Your bank roll is not large enough for the bigger game. That puts you in the position of being the sucker. Most tourist come to play the 2/5 game not the bigger ones. If your goal is to make money you need to evaluate the situation without EGO. Good Luck Travis.
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