It might be a large market, but it's not an enthusiastic one. The Raiders want to sell a lot of expensive tickets. That's why they want a new stadium. They will make more money elsewhere.

I made the old college try to be appointed to one of the 3 empty legislative seats in Washoe County for the special session in early October. Made the newspaper and the evening news. Thought it would be fun. I was not selected. I wasn't even asked any questions. (Kinda like Han Solo in cloud city)

Anyway, the two people they picked in my district were a developer who donated to all 4 of the county commissioners who voted for him, and an "old football buddy of the chief lobbyist of the Raider stadium deal" Ladies and gentlemen, Nevada politics.

You're underestimating the amount of disorganization and recalcitrance there is in Oakland politics, particularly as it concerns the Raiders. The city got burned really bad by them and there's nothing but a bad taste in their mouth. So even if this was a good plan, it's far from a guarantee that it would happen. Just look how long the A's have been in limbo and they didn't ruin the city financially.

The plan doesn't even specify a new stadium, just a possible "upgrade".

After more research it looks like Oakland wants to give the Raiders and A's a chance at the land first. It seems like if one or both of those teams don't want the land, there would be little use for stadiums there.

And they need a new one. One of the worst things about the existing stadium is that some of the plumbing runs below sea level. On busy game days the sewage would back up because it can't flow uphill.

At least it can flow into the dugouts at the Coliseum..

The more tax money is involved, the higher the likelihood for other owners to support relocation. Every stadium dollar that comes from private investors instead of tax payers pockets, sets a bad precedent.

Passed another hurdle.
Still think even if NV passes it the NFL will veto.
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/s...12574848393217

Yea as a life long Raiders fan who has seen nothing but Stadium issues from the early 90s into the early 00s and through Al's passing into Mark's tenure as owner, lets all curb our enthusiasm. This has a LONG way to go before it could come close to actually happening. Oh BTW, if Oakland/Bay Area gets its collective crap together and puts together even a semi-legit big to keep the Raiders in the bay the NFL will do it. They want the Raiders in the East Bay but the NFL has to be fair and let the Raiders ownership pursue all avenues to secure a real stadium deal, even if it's in markets the NFL would rather not delve into in the near future.

Super Bowl in Vegas? $$$$$

Why would the NFL block it? Revenue must suck in Oaktown. They make more money with the Raiduhs in Vegas.

I should of been more clear and thank you for pointing that out PiggyMan!

The NFL meaning the 20 or so "old school" owners that are very conservative, elderly white men who like the old school way of things and think their brand and franchises will be tarnished if there is a franchise in Las Vegas. It's sad but true.

As an NFL owner i will veto the deal

You're in trouble.

Maybe. But their greed may overcome their fear of tarnishment.

It's a business and owners might be old school, conservative and whatever but first and foremost they are business men.

Not letting a franchise move away from a city where they don't get tax money for a new stadium to a city where they get a boatload of tax money is not a precedent anyone wants to set.

I think the strangest thing is the way you're saying "boatload of tax money" like it's a positive thing.

I live in Oakland and welcome the Raiders moving. Anywhere. Because there's no way we're paying $750 million for the privilege of being an NFL city and if Las Vegas is, we won't have to deal with the yearly bitching about how we don't suck their dick enough.

It is a very positive thing to the owners. Somebody said the owners will veto a relocation to Vegas and I replied that they won't veto anything that gifts them tons of cash.

They also won't veto a franchise moving to London in a couple of years because they will benefit from that extra 9:30AM ET TV timeslot. The only thing they don't like about the current London situation is the fact they lose a home game if their teams plays there as the host.

What would their name be? "London Bills" doesn't really sound that great.

Bills of London ldo

Their World League / NFL Europe team was called London Monarchs. But they obviously failed like all other teams outside of Germany (and Amsterdam).

Yeah, that won't "fly" in the NFL(get it?). The Steelers and the Vikings won't be intimidated by butterflies.

A month ago I would have said Adelson was about the only politician I approved of. He came out against rec pot and called a special session to beat an election he knows the GOP will lose to gift Adelson $1.2 billion in tax money. It is appalling.

Any opponent running against an incumbent that voted for this has gold to use, especially since nearly every GOP that is voting for this accepted cash gifts from Adelson. The attack ad writes itself.

They'd be called Werewolves of London.

My attack ad would be set at a craps table, a cop takes your stack and gives it to the boxman, who looks like Sheldon.