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11-26-2012 , 09:36 PM
are those poker players going to buy 30k tickets or what ever it was when mega was at 600+ million...
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11-26-2012 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GoingBroke777
are those poker players going to buy 30k tickets or what ever it was when mega was at 600+ million...
Arieh is looking for interest per twitter, but doubt they will do that many again.

If I win, I am starting a "Moving to Vegas with 100 Million, Can I make it?" thread.
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11-26-2012 , 10:15 PM
Kind of a noob here, is the powerplay thing a no-brainer?
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11-26-2012 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
It's not completely meaningless, the $425m is what is paid out if you take the installments. You're collecting the interest on the annuities that the lottery buys. You'd have to be a moron to take the installments, but still.
In the context that someone thinks that they would win $425m it is completely meaningless. What is the value of that annuity? $278.3m, but the morons that buy these tickets don't understand that.
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11-26-2012 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
Kind of a noob here, is the powerplay thing a no-brainer?
It is a no-brainer to avoid purchasing the power play. The power play doesn't even affect the Jackpot, only the smaller payouts and you absolutely shouldn't be playing the lottery for the smaller payouts.

Just look at the payout table. As an example, if you buy a $2 ticket and match only the power ball you get $4 back. Thus you would need 1 in 2 odds for this to be a neutral investment (ignoring all other prize levels). With the power play option, you would spend $3, and get $12 back. So now, you only need 1 in 4 odds for this to be a neutral investment. That sounds great until you realize that your odds of hitting the powerball (and nothing else) are 1 in 55.41 (odds of winning any prize are 1 in 31.85). I would just say play for the jackpot and if you win something else that's gravy on top.
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11-26-2012 , 10:33 PM
ok ty
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11-26-2012 , 10:39 PM
I'd definitely stay anonymous if I won.
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11-26-2012 , 10:48 PM
You wouldn't post in the BBV?
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11-26-2012 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by darkpool42
I'd definitely stay anonymous if I won.
Some states, such as mine MN, you cannot remain anonymous.
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11-26-2012 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
In the context that someone thinks that they would win $425m it is completely meaningless. What is the value of that annuity? $278.3m, but the morons that buy these tickets don't understand that.
And the $278 will be taxed at what? 45-55%?
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11-26-2012 , 10:57 PM
yea taxes suck, ill let you know how much they take once i win.....
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11-27-2012 , 12:18 AM
I would buy a nice house in Vegas, one in Denver, and buy Hooters and donate it to LVL.
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11-27-2012 , 02:53 AM
I've always thought certain locations or whatever are due for a winning ticket like there's a 7/11 nearby that has had 3 lotto winners ....I would think buying a lotto ticket in some gas station in the middle of nowhere has a better shot at winning than buying one near a casino..... superstitious
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11-27-2012 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by darkpool42
I'd definitely stay anonymous if I won.
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Originally Posted by dNAssume
Some states, such as mine MN, you cannot remain anonymous.
I live on a border. One state you cannot be anonymous and one you can. Really need to cross the border and get the tickets from the non-publicity state. If I win as part of the group, the fiancee and I will probably stay where we are. If we win solely, we're outta here.

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Originally Posted by xwing1987
And the $278 will be taxed at what? 45-55%?
Depends on where you live due to if you have state taxes, too.
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11-27-2012 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
They do say that, and it's generally true about the people who play it regularly. I know the math and I'll be playing this week. It's not about EV it's about utility.
If you want to play, play.

I have a minor in math, and a Masters in Finance, and I started playing a few years ago, a few dollars a week.
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11-27-2012 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
I live on a border. One state you cannot be anonymous and one you can. Really need to cross the border and get the tickets from the non-publicity state. If I win as part of the group, the fiancee and I will probably stay where we are. If we win solely, we're outta here.



Depends on where you live due to if you have state taxes, too.
My state allows anonymous claiming. I will set up a blind trust, pay the taxes, dissolve it, and keep it moving.
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11-27-2012 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by xwing1987
And the $278 will be taxed at what? 45-55%?
25% + your state rate, if any + your local rate, if any.

http://www.lottostrategies.com/scrip..._analysis.html
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11-27-2012 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by savatage
I dont understand the lotto hate. The nearly impossible odds are made up for by the brief rush you get while you imagine youre gonna win. Well worth the small amount.
"A Dollar and a Dream" syndrome
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11-27-2012 , 09:55 AM
I hope there are riots at gas stations in the hood. Much like on black friday where people get trampled underfoot at Wal-Mart and Target. This would bring me great joy.
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11-27-2012 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
You'd have to be a moron to take the installments, but still.
Not if you can find someone who will buy the annuity from you for more than what the lottery offers. Don't just assume the installments are a bad deal. There are companies out there that buy annuities and someone just might give you more than $278.3M for your $425M annuity.

All part of why they tell people to go find a competent attorney and accountant before you show up to collect your winnings. Advice which I will surely ignore in my haste to hurry up and start living large on Thursday morning.
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11-27-2012 , 12:57 PM
my luck if I took the installment option I would find out I only have six months to live
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11-27-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bav
Not if you can find someone who will buy the annuity from you for more than what the lottery offers. Don't just assume the installments are a bad deal. There are companies out there that buy annuities and someone just might give you more than $278.3M for your $425M annuity.

All part of why they tell people to go find a competent attorney and accountant before you show up to collect your winnings. Advice which I will surely ignore in my haste to hurry up and start living large on Thursday morning.
idk if they buy annuities that big, but even commercial annuities brokers only take 15-20 percent at the max.
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my luck if I took the installment option I would find out I only have six months to live
you could probably will it to your family at least.

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Originally Posted by MadTiger
25% + your state rate, if any + your local rate, if any.

http://www.lottostrategies.com/scrip..._analysis.html
don't forget that you get to deduct previous losing lotto tickets.
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11-27-2012 , 01:29 PM
"So you're saying there's a chance!"

the ROI investment for a winning ticket is massive... no where else you can get that equity play in the world outside of a lottery.

$1 - $425,000,000
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11-27-2012 , 02:34 PM
Thanks to those increasing the money I'm going to win tomorrow.
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11-27-2012 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
"So you're saying there's a chance!"

the ROI investment for a winning ticket is massive... no where else you can get that equity play in the world outside of a lottery.

$1 - $425,000,000
Ummm i think your equity play is more like $1 = $ .50 . Still a good entertainment value while thinking about what to do with all those millions. Wife bought two tickets, so we have cut our odds in half!
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