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Under_the_Radar 11-26-2012 04:00 AM

$425m lotto.....one time
 
http://arizonalottery.com/

Reports are this will be the main event of lotto's. Maybe half of vegas will drive over to Rosie's and buy some tickets....and Rosies is that little road side schack on the R about 15 miles past the damm.

jeflax 11-26-2012 04:05 AM

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good luck!

Turyia 11-26-2012 08:00 AM

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ever feel like you're inside a george orwell novel?

jcorb 11-26-2012 11:15 AM

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I can't even hit a number straight up on the roulette wheel. 38 to one.

Just think of the powerball as a roulette wheel with ~65 million numbers.

Doc T River 11-26-2012 11:17 AM

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I'm in a group and it sucks because if we're the only people to hit, I'll only get about ten million as my share. :laugh:

Tom Dwans Son 11-26-2012 12:41 PM

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Neither Powerball nor Mega Millions have ever been ev+ investments. Earlier this year Mega Millions set a record with a cash payout of $475 million, and that would have been an ev+ investment if not so many people had played it. However based on the number of people playing it (and the chances it would be split multiways) it was a horrible investment.

BTW, the cash payout for this lottery is like $278.3 million. The $425 million number is completely meaningless and is simply used by the lottery to deceive the poor and mentally weak.

BTW, the Texas lotto was a good investment a couple years back, so it's not that a lottery doesn't have the potential to be a good investment, but as long as people are stupid and make unwise investments, it's unlikely the powerball or mega millions will ever be good investments.

ps. I'm a hypocrite because I'm buying tickets too. Good luck to me.

Tom Dwans Son 11-26-2012 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jcorb (Post 35917802)
I can't even hit a number straight up on the roulette wheel. 38 to one.

Just think of the powerball as a roulette wheel with ~65 million numbers.

I've never played roulette but I think you mean the powerball is a roulette wheel with 175,223,510 numbers.

Doc T River 11-26-2012 01:24 PM

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It's got to be a better investment than the other one I have. Social Security. ;)

jcorb 11-26-2012 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son (Post 35918607)
I've never played roulette but I think you mean the powerball is a roulette wheel with 175,223,510 numbers.

no wonder I can't win, that would be one big a$$ed wheel

they say the lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math

Lattimer 11-26-2012 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jcorb (Post 35919444)
no wonder I can't win, that would be one big a$$ed wheel

they say the lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math

They do say that, and it's generally true about the people who play it regularly. I know the math and I'll be playing this week. It's not about EV it's about utility.

Tom Dwans Son 11-26-2012 03:05 PM

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That's true. It's primarily a tax on the poor. The odds of winning never change, regardless of whether the jackpot is $40million or $400 million (obv odds of splitting changes but that's it). The return on your investment, while never good, is much worse when the jackpot is still low. The people that play the lottery week in and week out tend to have lower incomes (and are more desperate). They build the jackpot up, and then once it gets big then everyone (doctors, engineers, lawyers, businessmen, poker players etc) start playing. In a way, it's a reverse robin hood scenario with many of the winners being upper-middle class. And we all know, when the poor do win they tend to blow it all anyways.

jcpeace 11-26-2012 03:08 PM

I spent all morning at work thinking about who and what I'm gonna buy with my winnings

Mr Spyutastic 11-26-2012 03:30 PM

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I say this to myself every week when I play the mega millions...."One time"

Spike McAwesome 11-26-2012 03:46 PM

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If you live in Vegas and want to buy tickets, never ever ever ever ever ever EVER go to Arizona to get them instead of California. AZ has a 6% state tax on all lottery winnings (over a certain amount) for non-residents. California has no state tax on lottery winnings.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/lot...-greatly-state

Doc T River 11-26-2012 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son (Post 35920375)
That's true. It's primarily a tax on the poor. The odds of winning never change, regardless of whether the jackpot is $40million or $400 million (obv odds of splitting changes but that's it). The return on your investment, while never good, is much worse when the jackpot is still low. The people that play the lottery week in and week out tend to have lower incomes (and are more desperate). They build the jackpot up, and then once it gets big then everyone (doctors, engineers, lawyers, businessmen, poker players etc) start playing. In a way, it's a reverse robin hood scenario with many of the winners being upper-middle class. And we all know, when the poor do win they tend to blow it all anyways.

They seriously need to give lottery winners courses in money management.

StarberryBSD 11-26-2012 04:26 PM

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I am in a pool with 4 other people and we have 1,000 tickets. One time!

eco74 11-26-2012 06:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike McAwesome (Post 35920963)
If you live in Vegas and want to buy tickets, never ever ever ever ever ever EVER go to Arizona to get them instead of California. AZ has a 6% state tax on all lottery winnings (over a certain amount) for non-residents. California has no state tax on lottery winnings.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/lot...-greatly-state

There's no Powerball in CA, it's Mega Millions here.

eco74 11-26-2012 06:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son (Post 35918588)

BTW, the cash payout for this lottery is like $278.3 million. The $425 million number is completely meaningless and is simply used by the lottery to deceive the poor and mentally weak.

It's not completely meaningless, the $425m is what is paid out if you take the installments. You're collecting the interest on the annuities that the lottery buys. You'd have to be a moron to take the installments, but still.

MSchu18 11-26-2012 06:09 PM

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I'm going to arizona on wed!

Doc T River 11-26-2012 07:00 PM

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If I win, I'm buying a huge mattress to put the cash under. I'd get about the same amount of interest.

The fiancee and I haven't bought Powerball or Mega Millions by ourselves in a long time. Going to break down and buy for Wednesday's drawing.

MSchu18 11-26-2012 07:01 PM

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^lmao...

Doc T River 11-26-2012 07:08 PM

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Does anyone know if the end of the world is on a Sunday or a Thursday? Would really suck if the jackpot isn't hit until the day before and the world ends the next day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FtzxJNQ7zo

savatage 11-26-2012 07:39 PM

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I dont understand the lotto hate. The nearly impossible odds are made up for by the brief rush you get while you imagine youre gonna win. Well worth the small amount.

Under_the_Radar 11-26-2012 08:10 PM

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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...erball-lotter/

Doc T River 11-26-2012 08:27 PM

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Two appropriate musical interludes, by Frank Sinatra, while people wait for the drawing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJVewWbeBiY


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