**NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

[gudcallm8]

Originally Posted by asquith31

Kris, let's just get this all sorted so that we can put everything to rest. There were obviously disagreements in the past and things were not handled perfectly on either end. We asked Syker to handle all correspondence on 2+2 for the simple fact of the language barrier and expressing everything clearly (even this post I am having edited for me).

Bigloser and Bogan have acted as 3rd Party arbitrators, and based on those conversations, it looks like 30% of MU + $500 was the agreed settlement amount. We are fine with that and happy to just bring this all to an end. Accordingly, this will clear your name and allow us to move on with our staking business as well.

To clarify numbers, 30% of the MU ($2525) is $757.50. Add the $500 for a total of $1257.50. You can send this to me via PokerStars and all will be settled. I hope we can resolve this as soon as possible.

Kev/ben asquitheaseestaking.

Right ok lets agree at them figures then but some sort of payment plan needs to be put in place as i dont have the funds avaliable atm + owe MU to my current backers.
Bogan suggested a figure of x amount every profit split with the initial 500 being at a higher %
So if this can be agreed then we can get this mess cleared up

[ubeenshanked]

Originally Posted by WEC

Even with existence of this warning, he has continued to scam/rip people off - be careful because he has recently stooped to using chat at Americas Cardroom to hit people up for stakes so he must be desperate.

Recent 2+2 ACTIVITY:

New 2+2 Banned Name used: soloking76
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/318104/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post31263838

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7829

New Poker users names used (True Poker/Americas Cardroom):
N30kid
irckid1

Aim: devjh77
Real Name: Devon Heermance

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mod edit(RW)
more
He's still active (DNS) on ptp
where they continue to stake him.

He is now using Whataajokee on lock and Scammed my staking partner on lock through skype when he got 4th or 5th in a tourney for 400 then rolled

[WEC]

Originally Posted by ubeenshanked

He is now using Whataajokee on lock and Scammed my staking partner on lock through skype when he got 4th or 5th in a tourney for 400 then rolled

It is right here from June 2012....Please Stakers Google all of your Players Names prior to staking. Could have saved money here easily!!! I saw in another forum in last couple days this guy Skyping/Emailing/AOLing people for stakes, etc

On PTP in recent days, someone gave him access to their poker acct, and he transferred money to various people.

Originally Posted by lvcjarrett

Devon's Lock: whataajokee and email solo_xsessi0nx1@hotmail.com

I was refered to Devon through one of my trusted friends that had staked Devon successfully. I was unaware of his past or how big of a scumbag he is, as was my friend. I don't know the appropriate place for skype logs so I'm just going to post them here. Mods feel free to do what you want with it. Devon blew through an initial roll of 300 in one session. He is a complete degen, he never once thought of moving down. I decided to give him another shot at it and gave him 100 for one set of 11 fos and under. He went on to get 3rd in a 3r and decided to move up to 11rs after I went to bed and was out of sight which was obviously out of our terms and he was well aware of it.


Here is our most recent skype exchange after which he unfriended me.

[6/12/2012 4:15:33 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me the intial 100 back
[6/12/2012 4:15:42 PM] Zach Jarrett: you went outside the stake
[6/12/2012 4:16:41 PM] Zach Jarrett: I'm not arguing with you, you have 24 hrs to give me the 100 back or I'm flaming the daylights out of you
[6/12/2012 5:11:47 PM] Irckid: shoulda asked for it last night when i had it i lost it all last night played intill 4am idc what u do i lost it all ur just mad i lost it... it happens get over it if i had it i would send im done on lock site is horrible
[6/12/2012 5:12:23 PM] Zach Jarrett: you don't understand
[6/12/2012 5:12:31 PM] Zach Jarrett: you broke our agreement
[6/12/2012 5:12:39 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me 100 dollars
[6/12/2012 5:12:40 PM] Irckid: i played 11s
[6/12/2012 5:12:50 PM] Zach Jarrett: 11rs are not 11 fos
[6/12/2012 5:13:02 PM] Zach Jarrett: you're well aware of that
[6/12/2012 5:13:18 PM] Zach Jarrett: you broke our agreement you owe me the roll
[6/12/2012 5:14:20 PM] Irckid: well i got 0$on lock
[6/12/2012 5:14:50 PM] Zach Jarrett: not my problem
[6/12/2012 5:14:54 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me 100
[6/12/2012 5:16:05 PM] Irckid: well if i had it i would send it but i dont
[6/12/2012 5:16:16 PM] Zach Jarrett: you don't have 100 dollars to your name?
[6/12/2012 5:16:24 PM] Irckid: no
[6/12/2012 5:16:42 PM] Zach Jarrett: thats sad but again not my problem
[6/12/2012 5:16:47 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me 100
[6/12/2012 5:23:25 PM] Irckid: how do i owe u 100? even kno i lost it all?
[6/12/2012 5:23:42 PM] Zach Jarrett: because you played out of the stake dumbass
[6/12/2012 5:24:16 PM] Irckid: u didnt tell me to stop after that tury i woulda sent it then if u woulda asked np
[6/12/2012 5:24:30 PM] Zach Jarrett: f tard you played 11rs
[6/12/2012 5:24:33 PM] Irckid: u said play 11s
[6/12/2012 5:24:45 PM] Zach Jarrett: 11 freeze outs I was very specific
[6/12/2012 5:25:01 PM] Zach Jarrett: you're deflecting your f up
[6/12/2012 5:25:12 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me 100 you broke the terms of our agreement
[6/12/2012 5:26:23 PM] Zach Jarrett: stop angling because youre life busto
[6/12/2012 5:26:32 PM] Zach Jarrett: you owe me 100 how are you going to pay it?
[6/12/2012 5:27:25 PM] Irckid: well i dont got it so idk
[6/12/2012 5:27:48 PM] Zach Jarrett: well figure it out asap
[6/12/2012 8:42:44 PM] Zach Jarrett: how is my money coming?
[10:00:37 AM] Zach Jarrett: I really hope the money is coming or you have a plan on how to get it to me for your sake. You clearly broke our agreement and you're well aware of it. If you have any interest in being backed through either of the forums I suggest you send me the money asap or nobody from 2p2 or P2P will back you ever again. It has nothing to do with 100 dollars, it has to do with the fact that you don't respect anyone else's money and terms. I suggest you pay me the 100 and avoid losing all future backing through anyone reputeable.
[2:59:04 PM] Irckid: lol
[2:59:18 PM] Zach Jarrett: whats so funny?
[2:59:36 PM] Irckid: i dont need ptp or 2+2 or any fourms to get backed
[3:00:10 PM] Zach Jarrett: you realize you'll never get backed by any of the big backers ever
[3:01:02 PM] Zach Jarrett: and you think its funny breaking conditions of an agreement and pissing away other people's money when you don't have 2 pennies to rub together?

Then he signed off.

Here is a guy that needs the police on his tail.

Investors please fill out this form if he is from USA
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)

If you know his locale, please call the local police department and let them know he is a serial scammer.

Maybe Mods can contact Lock or Americas Cardroom higher-ups so they will work with the site to reveal his personal info so he can be tracked down and arrested. The poker sites need to get their azz in gear and help much more in stopping these serial scammers. It would really take little effort on their part, and it would surely stop a lot of these criminals, and make the poker arena much safer for innocent, friendly players. If the serial criminals knew the poker sites would discourage and go after the crooks, the process would surely slow to a snails crawl.

The poker sites make millions of friggin dollars, and just sit there and allow their players to be ripped-off left and right. The criminals know it and go to town. What is sick, is a group of dedicated, volunteer, scam busters are left to keep track of the slimeballs, while the cash-laden poker sites don't spend a cent to help, unless they are the ones being stolen from.

To be fair, some of the poker sites have gotten off their glacier filled azzes, and at least closed down some accounts of scammers. But much more can be done by the sites themselves. It is really disgusting!!!!!!!

[asquith31]

Originally Posted by gudcallm8

Right ok lets agree at them figures then but some sort of payment plan needs to be put in place as i dont have the funds avaliable atm + owe MU to my current backers.
Bogan suggested a figure of x amount every profit split with the initial 500 being at a higher %
So if this can be agreed then we can get this mess cleared up

Ok Kris, so following up from our Skype conversation, here is the agreed upon plan to clear up the amount owed to us:

From any profits sent to your current backers, 20% will be sent to us to clear up the first $500.

For the remaining makeup (757.50), 10% will be sent to us.

I also think it will be easiest for you to send those funds directly to us instead of sending to your backers first. Should just make things simpler
ty asquitheasee staking

[gudcallm8]

Originally Posted by asquith31

Ok Kris, so following up from our Skype conversation, here is the agreed upon plan to clear up the amount owed to us:

From any profits sent to your current backers, 20% will be sent to us to clear up the first $500.

For the remaining makeup (757.50), 10% will be sent to us.

I also think it will be easiest for you to send those funds directly to us instead of sending to your backers first. Should just make things simpler
ty asquitheasee staking

Yes i agree with all this

[realestate]

1. Q.E.D.

2. RPM - iLLuSi0nZz (0 is a zero)

3. don't know

4. was going to make a $70 trade on RPM. he has quite a few trades so i trusted him and sent first. he never sent anything to my BoA.

[MisoHoneySoup]

Woodstock37

Name: Alex Peddle

Pokerstars username same as 2+2

Took alex on a trial basis and not long after stake was abandoned and there's a tiny amount of MU outstanding, just a fair warning to other backers.

Emailed him twice, seen him pop online on skype and I've received no further contact, all references etc checked out, so I'm quite surprised by the outcome.

[Alanharperzz]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...merge-1244483/

[Zima421]

Stanman420 on stars

Was very hard to work with the whole time we staked him. I never thought he would steal money, or intentionally do anything shadey, but working with him was just a pain. He never did stuff i asked of him (updating a site we use), played things he wasnt supposed/allowed too, was really hard to get in contact with at times etc


He is a talented player, but just doesnt take care of the business side of things as well as he should.

[Mecastyles]

Originally Posted by Saywatagain!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...forums-549322/

You'll have better luck posting in this thread, most stables will search this thread to see if any potential horses have scammed in the past, posting here will give you the best chance to inform people of what happened.




The funny thing about poker is that generally you can hand a huge amount of money to a person you've never met or never will meet, and not think twice about it.
Most non poker players would see this as madness,(which in a sense, it is) but if you look at the overall scheme of things it's only a veeeeery small % of players who roll on stakes, which is supprising given the nature of how these transactions take place.

I dont agree, i really feel that its not lower, and maybe higher % of shadyness in poker compared to other areas. Even with thorough rules and references i've had alot of anglings and runs taken place the last 2 years. IT is the cost of the business but i would not define it as veeeeeeery small at all

[Mecastyles]

Martypartyy on pokerstars aka martijn boerenbrink

Played 2-8$ 180s for two months a while back. After he hit the agreed stoploss to drop the 8s from his schedule he decided he was done with the stake eventhough minimum amount of games required wasnt met even 40%.

After some negotiating we got him back to play lower for us but there was no motivation at all. After we decided to drop him and leave the makeup for what is is, he hasnt send one dollar of the remaining bankroll (500$) because he played mtts (which he said were his own money) with it and thus he didnt have it. We were working on a payment plan but in the light of the recent posts about him I think its fair to give this information.

I will update when I ever get the $500 back but I'd advise to not stake him because he does not follow rules and plays things for his own dime with your money

[Mecastyles]

Hatelijk on pokerstars

Applied for a 45-180 man staking with reasonable stats and even from my hometown. Ended up losing a big chunk in the first few hundred games (80bi more or less) and just stopped playing, multiple excuses but in the end we had to drop him because his volume was nonexistent. Refused any type of agreement afterwards

[Mecastyles]

After I read rigged_game post I think its fair to say that he was also playing games with your money. I asked him what he was doing to pay me my 500$ back and he said he applied to another stake for 3+R 180s and was gonna sell stuff(which he did not)

I hope he starts clearing his name but at this piont we have to assume he wont

[SwoopAE]

Thony Lescu/Lesceu from Belgium is a scammer and a thief - he already has a mention in thread on p110, but he didn't play the events he was staked for and cut off contact.

Stars SN: didyoutryme?

[Simplicity8]

Originally Posted by Simplicity8

Name: Kyle Scott
Stars: Kyle Million
FTP: AZBiggun

2p2: Kyle Million (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/116777/)
PTP: Kyle Million (http://forum.parttimepoker.com/membe...e-million.html)

I am able to provide additional information upon request.


I staked Kyle from mid-October until Black Friday. Other than contract negotiations, I never had any problems or disputes with Kyle. Overall he was a great stake to have on board. We communicated on a daily basis, he updated his rail daily, sent back funds in a timely manner, and etc.

The last I heard from Kyle was on April 26th where I informed him to cashout the bankroll and to send me my share of equity on the stake. Since then I have made multiple efforts to contact him through several medias. I have not received a single word from him since April 26th. It appears as if he deleted his Twitter and Blogspot accounts. Both of which he updated on a frequent basis. His facebook page is also very limited (can only see his name and profile pic). I haven't seen him on Skype since April 26th. Again he used this daily.

I have not received a penny of what I am owed from Kyle.

Phone: 520-344-3244
Facebook: Kyle Scott
E-Mail: reddraider@gmail.com
AIM: biggunaz
Skype: reddraider


It appears he still uses his facebook as well as his phone as I left another voice message today. I'll offer a reward to anyone who assists in the return of the $3,000+ owed to me.