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Old 05-22-2012, 03:15 AM   #1
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What did I do wrong?

Hand #5558925001621 begins at 2012/05/21
Dealing down cards
Dealt to daveeeeeeey [Jd 3d]
daveeeeeeey posts the small blind of $0.02
PokerPrincess1986 posts the big blind of $0.04
tennisjunkie folds.
nv99rewls folds.
ramsrunner raises to $0.08.
daveeeeeeey calls $0.06.
PokerPrincess1986 raises to $0.24.
ramsrunner folds.
daveeeeeeey calls $0.16.
Dealing Flop [Kc Ad 3s]
daveeeeeeey checks.
PokerPrincess1986 checks.
Dealing Turn [Ah]
daveeeeeeey bets $0.56.
PokerPrincess1986 calls $0.56.
Dealing River [Qh]
daveeeeeeey checks.
PokerPrincess1986 checks.
daveeeeeeey shows [Jd 3d]
daveeeeeeey has Two Pair, Aces and Threes
PokerPrincess1986 shows [Qs Js]
PokerPrincess1986 has Two Pair, Aces and Queens
PokerPrincess1986 wins $1.60

My username is Daveeeeeey. I bet out my 3 after the ace hit, figuring she didnt have one or she would have bet the flop. She called 54 cents with a gutshot and hit a queen. Is this just bad luck or did I play the hand wrong?
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:41 PM   #2
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First thing is that you never should have called any raise with that hand. J 3 is not a good hand to play with. You should try watching some beginner videos and learn the basics of betting and calling! Good luck!
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:45 AM   #3
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Re: What did I do wrong?

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Originally Posted by DAS19 View Post
Hand #5558925001621 begins at 2012/05/21
Dealing down cards
Dealt to daveeeeeeey [Jd 3d]
daveeeeeeey posts the small blind of $0.02
PokerPrincess1986 posts the big blind of $0.04
tennisjunkie folds.
nv99rewls folds.
ramsrunner raises to $0.08.
daveeeeeeey calls $0.06.
PokerPrincess1986 raises to $0.24.
ramsrunner folds.
daveeeeeeey calls $0.16.
Dealing Flop [Kc Ad 3s]
daveeeeeeey checks.
PokerPrincess1986 checks.
Dealing Turn [Ah]
daveeeeeeey bets $0.56.
PokerPrincess1986 calls $0.56.
Dealing River [Qh]
daveeeeeeey checks.
PokerPrincess1986 checks.
daveeeeeeey shows [Jd 3d]
daveeeeeeey has Two Pair, Aces and Threes
PokerPrincess1986 shows [Qs Js]
PokerPrincess1986 has Two Pair, Aces and Queens
PokerPrincess1986 wins $1.60

My username is Daveeeeeey. I bet out my 3 after the ace hit, figuring she didnt have one or she would have bet the flop. She called 54 cents with a gutshot and hit a queen. Is this just bad luck or did I play the hand wrong?
Bad luck. Pokerprincess mad a horrible call on the turn. I don't agree that you should not have called with J3s. Calling with that hand depends on, your post flop skill, the action to you, likely hood that someone behind will reraise and the most important factor is implied odds. If stacks are big then calling a raise here is ok. If they are not big then a fold is a better play. That said they way you played after the flop was ok.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:36 AM   #4
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Re: What did I do wrong?

Maybe a smaller bet on the turn. You wanted to represent a set... with that you hardly want to get the other player out... she read that with that bet you were probably bluffing. Even though she made a bad call. And since you were bluffing, maybe you could try a river bet if you figured there was a good probability she would fold. Trying for a bluff with only the 2nd worst pair... probably not a good strategy, because your check in the river indicates you either didn't know her or you thought she was probably going to call the river.
At least that's how I read it.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:22 AM   #5
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Re: What did I do wrong?

Don't use the buttons to make your bets.

You gave up on the river. If you are representing a [K] by betting the turn; put in a value bet on the river (about 1/2PSB $0.75).

If you are going to bluff the turn, it's usually correct to bluff the river.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #6
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Re: What did I do wrong?

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Bad luck. Pokerprincess mad a horrible call on the turn.

Tell me why her call was horrible. I don't see it that way.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:06 AM   #7
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Re: What did I do wrong?

I think this hand is overplayed by everybody in it. J3 is acceptable in the small blind for implied odds in some situations but you probably shouldn't be praying for a specific AKQ flop in a pot that was raised and reraised preflop. So the first mistake is calling for .06c. Second mistake is once you did so, you overplayed it with a pot sized bet on the turn. I'd just continue checking it all the way down with that scary board and reevaluate later, or perhaps keep it small with about half the pot size. Reraising with QJ is probably not the best play either, but you don't know they have that.

Checking behind on the flop as the villain did is not an immediate sign of weakness either. They may have what you were representing, which is a set or two pair to get the exact turn card that happened which is a paired board. Remember, it takes a better hand to call than to raise with in most situations. Floating is an advanced play that you aren't going to see at this level very often. What do you do when for example, you raised preflop with aces and flopped a boat or top set on an otherwise entirely dry board, such as A82 all offsuit? There are very few hands that won't fold to you (unless your opponent gets creative) - 88, 22, 82 or a slim chance of them having the last ace in the deck. You have every card locked up. So why would you immediately bet pot sized there?

So not to sound harsh but I think if you're actually wondering what went wrong here, I'd say basically everything on your part. I agree with the last poster that if you're going to bluff this turn card you need to continue on the river - if you make a move, you go with it. But I wouldn't bluff here to begin with because that preflop raise followed by a check behind on the flop would worry me more than anything. Your opponent had position on you and could easily be slowplaying the boat there because they know if they raise your big turn bet they'll scare you out. Calling you on the other hand allows more value if you continue bluffing later. (this would possibly be a little different if the villain is out of position; they're less likely to slowplay because they lose a betting round that they wouldn't lose in position. That's one of many reasons that position is so huge in NLHE.) Don't be in such a hurry to defend your .08c; just wait for a better spot and get it back when you actually have aces full against the same donk who makes those moves.

Last edited by RushMXC; 06-14-2012 at 08:13 AM.
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