2 years ago, did it for the lulz, and it was he who challenged me lol.

i've grown up *slightly* since then





to slowhabit:
no i'm passing no judgment on that. i was just interested in seeing if Kaby's posts were based on hearsay or his own opinion on the matter.

fwiw i had 4 sessions with him and was very happy with them even though i could have prepared myself better (more specific questions/situations). i didn't get any more because of unrelated reasons (not playing as much, basicly)

FWIW, I think cftw is an awesome poster and I enjoy his posts on subjects like this a lot.

I dont think he's ever said once that it was his account, last thing i heard he played almost all of his online hands at stars.
You should go back to burning witches or find out what his stars sn is and then out him.
But youre probably to lazy to put any research into it.Youre the type of idiot that hires these scammer coaches like J HO and then cries about it.

Pretty easy to find a good coach for youre price range you just have to put some effort into it and then cross check with some honest and trustworthy people like their peers or people that they play against.In all my time at 2p2 ive sent out heaps of pm's to people and only once havent i got a reply and that was from someone who played at my stakes.

I don't think a player's recent win rate has much bearing at all on his ability to coach. The one and only measure of the effectiveness of a coach is how well their students do at improving. Don't show me the coach's graph, show me their student's graphs with arrows that say "coaching started here". If they turn upwards and climb, then it was a good coach for that student. I don't care if my coach is winning or losing at whatever level they're playing (as long as it's well above mine). I care about the quality of their ability to find my leaks and communicate them to me and to formulate a plan to get rid of them.

Poker coaches should be thought of like teachers/tutors in college subjects. I shouldn't have to remind people that there are many college professors who are leaders in their field, but are terrible teachers. There are also many excellent teachers who are not the leaders in their academic departments, let alone their field, but are beloved by their students. Often though, you can learn just as much outside of class from a grad student TA or an undergraduate tutor who got an A in the class a couple years ago. With either of the last two, it really doesn't matter if they are still excelling in their most recent studies because this just is not relevant to their ability to transmit knowledge to you at your level. What matters is that they will customize their instruction to YOU to find and fix your problems.

For poker, I view coaches in the $50-$100/hr range to be the upperclassmen tutors and those in the $100-$150 ranges to be the grad student TA's. Above that, it's like hiring a college professor, and for most, it's total overkill. People who say "just learn it on your own" are about as credible as people who say "nah, don't bother going to college". There are many notable examples of people who succeed this way, and it's still bad advice, IMO. Yes, you can get there that way, but it's the hard route.

I've been thinking this the whole thread. I'm pretty sure OP is doing this out of self interest but wants it to come off as a selfless gesture.

That being said, the coaching situation is a problem for sure but without a reputable system in place people are going to continue to get taken advantage of.

I can understand 2 + 2 not wishing to accept responsibility but an obvious and simple move would be to require that least one active screen name is always provided.

This is very eloquently written and rings true. I'm not sure if posting links to other strategy sites is allow (if so forgive me and delete this) but I thought I'd let people know about a thread which is incredibly relevant to this topic and discusses [vital]Myth

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-for..._is_Wrong.html