Systematic Training Drills for NLHE - Page 9 - Poker Coaches

**ChicagoRy** · 08-08-2012, 03:27 PM

If it works in open office, just download open office, it's entirely free and works pretty well.

IveGotUrOuts · 08-09-2012, 03:57 AM

Great thread

travel21 · 08-12-2012, 12:54 AM

Excellent, excellent post. Exactly what I've been wanting to know/do, but never knew where or how to start.

Idrinkcoke · 08-13-2012, 09:27 PM

incredible thread. can't wait to start doing some of this on my own. pretty inspiring that you work so hard.

JimAfternoon · 08-13-2012, 10:02 PM

I am interested in getting those OpenOffice spreadsheets but they were hosted on megaupload. Does anyone have a copy of them? Thx.

FocusedR · 08-13-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon

I am interested in getting those OpenOffice spreadsheets but they were hosted on megaupload. Does anyone have a copy of them? Thx.

2nd this! Thnx.

oakley77 · 08-15-2012, 01:46 AM

I agree with the process of actively learning instead of simply watching videos. Thats why I like the products over at synergy poker, really puts you into a thinking mode and you cant just watch a great player play while doing other things

fogodchao · 08-16-2012, 11:19 AM

very precise and helpful. definitely puts things in perspective

NeuroBy · 08-21-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FocusedR

2nd this! Thnx.

me too

JacobNosik · 08-30-2012, 04:56 AM

PM'ed OP about the links, then found out there are two threads regarding this topic. Here are the links posted in the other thread.

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Originally Posted by HomeyG30

Hey guys -- Here are the new links for the EV OpenOffice files. If you're using excel, note the problems mentioned in previous posts that you'll need to fix.

EV Bet or Raise (AI or River): http://www.mediafire.com/?apbv52m6swdrmvl
EV Call (AI or River): http://www.mediafire.com/?4tanp7hspbqtmml

Thanks for the quick response though OP!

Mthomas22 · 08-30-2012, 07:15 PM

Liked the original post

Deco354 · 09-05-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeyG30

B) Grinding PokerStove / Mentally Estimating Your Equity vs. a Range
-Get PokerStove out, or an iphone/ipad app like PokerSniper.
-From recent hand histories filtered in a specific area you want to improve upon, plug in your hand vs. villain's range at the critical decision point. BEFORE clicking “Evaluate”, mentally estimate what you think your hand's actual equity will be using a method like WiltonTilt's TUPAC method (see his Math of NL Holdem series on DC) or a similar method described in the book Poker Math that Matters.

For non DC members is there anywhere we can find an explanation of how to do this?

Deco354 · 09-10-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deco354

For non DC members is there anywhere we can find an explanation of how to do this?

Found this in another thread.

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Originally Posted by HomeyG30

Wiltontilt's TUPAC method:

You BTN open/call AQs vs. resteal from a 60bb random stacker. He cbets Q74r. You call. He psb shoves turn offsuit J. You estimate this particular villain's 2 barrell range to be:

Step 1) Tally Up combos
AA -- 3 combos
KK -- 6 combos
QQ -- 1 combo
JJ -- 3 combos
AK -- discounted to 6 of the 12 possible combos (he'll barrell some but not all of the time)

Step 2) Pair combos to known equities
vs. AA our equity = ~5% (we have 2 outs once)
vs. KK = ~10% (we have 5 outs once)
vs. QQ/JJ = 0%
vs. AK = ~85% (he has 7 outs once)

We can pair (i.e. combine) the AA & JJ to get 6 total combos averaged at ~3% equity
KK also = 6 combos at ~ 10% equity

So combining these two categories gives us 12 total combos with an average of ~6.5% equity.

Step 3) Analyze unpaired combos
QQ there's only 1 combo where our equity is 0%, so let's just tweak the equity in the above category down slightly to ~6%.

Step 4) Combine the above to estimate

There are 13 combos where our equity = 6%
There are 6 combos (AK) where our equity = 85%

Since approx 1/3 of the combos is 85%, we should travel about 1/3 of the distance between 6% and 85% (86-5 = 81. Let's just say 80 for simplicity's sake. 80/3 = ~26.)

6% + 26% = 32%

Our equity is approx. 32%

Compare with actual equity in PokerStove:

30.86%

kamitis · 10-01-2012, 04:41 AM

Great post. Thank you.

yogazen · 10-01-2012, 06:33 PM

I finished the entirety of this thread.

First off, for the OP to write something like this. Is great, yes, practise. makes. perfect. Or so its said. The Value of what he is saying, is positive, well-fated. The exact details of what have been said, agreed or disagreed upon, are for the most, not of much importance.

For everyone 'hating' on CwocWocs replies regarding the importance of practise equated to talent, or one means of practise vs another, both independently and as relating to different domains-- as being 'negative' or 'bashing' the OP,

Here are my thoughts.

What this person is saying, may not 'ring a bell' to some of you or come across a certain way because you may not understand the thoughts to know why someone is saying something like this. Whether that is because, the composition of individuals who generally read posts like this('beginner' posts) may not understand the notion of what is best for them - or it may be instinctual to associate 'opposing comment' as negative----- towards a beneficial topic, of individuals becoming great at something,(which I assume readers of this forum all try to be great at.)

From what the OP I felt,

* He is a smart individual, for choosing to THINK(practise) of something he VALUES in LIFE. --whether he does this right or wrong is not the point(this is what debate can discuss and is good) --

*the statement he made about practise and the uncomfortable moment, of practise. I think if of vast importance.

From my view. What cwowoc, has said. Is not meant to say, no don't practise, it won't make you better. Or that talent is innate, and you can't work to be great. Or this is better than that.

This post was not meant to go into any detail of what is less good or more good practise . Or that poker is or is not extremely variable(as are individuals who play and who we play against), which lends one thing being more right vs another.(in terms of w.e.) Mainly the idea to think for ourselves, as individuals who play a game, based independent decision. --and this relates to everything.

-If consideration towards, the importance of debate and thought, is the first course of action individuals who want to be great take, this will be a big step towards achieving things we independently may choose to achieve.

+1OP +1 CwocWoc.