It was never finished

Wait. First you were saying people can't make anonymous accusations like this (completely ignoring 70% of the UB cheating threads) and now you are criticizing them for posting their e-mail. You're a real piece of work TT.

This explains the whole Ho / Gordon mix-up.

Ho has had plastic surgery before...here are the before and after vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_DXiVC3LHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9rE...eature=related

Maybe he's morphed again and now looks like Phil Gordon.

Be careful if you've just eaten...exposure to this fat little worm makes most people want to vomit!

Holy ****, this is why he looks like Mickey Rourke?>

This guys is clearly a narcissist who uses his ego to rationalize his lies.

He once posted a screenshot of his HEM database showing the results of his last 20 or so sessions. Each one was a huge winning session. He basically tried to convince people he literally never lost.

This is most definitely not the case as many people have been coming forward on StoxPoker where Jason has not issued refunds and delivered an inexcusable coaching program. In addition to that Jason has run a rather large affiliate scam by offering each of his students 40% rakeback on FullTilt.

I understand that information hasn't yet made it in 2p2 - but how could it? This thread is hidden away in the coaching advice forum when it needs to be in NVG so parties involved can notice it.

+1000

wtf

umm wtf read the leatherass comments again he said he thought Jason didn't seem good at poker and that he wasn't getting the good end of the deal if he took it, not that he thought Jason was going to scam anyone. This is something *TT* seems to be missing too. If he had charged the guys 15k to go to Maccau for a boot camp and fullfilled his end while being a horrible and worthless coach, it's not that bad at all.

When he starts charging people for things he said would be free, not allow people to buy-out when he claims he will beforehand, not providing the coaching he promised (even if it is lolbad coaching), and uses a 5/10 stake to play 25/50 and spend it on himself, that's where the bigger problem is.

There are all kinds of bad coaches offering coaching these days. It's buyer beware, figure that out beforehand. If they had just gone to the camp and gotten bad coaching, bad advice, and just not gotten any better we wouldn't be having this thread at all. So just because leatherass knew he probably wasn't that good at poker and that he was claiming to be better than he was meant he should post everywhere that he's a scammer with no proof? If leatherass knew about the plo fund and how he wasn't going to hold his end of the deal up or that he was going to lose money on students' accounts and not pay them back then I retract all of this but from everything I saw leatherass had no knowledge of a scam and thought he was just one of the coaches signed to training sites who aren't that good at poker and thinks he is. There are plenty of them out there and most people know it, no need to get into specifics.

lol wow

Hi Guys.

Just a quick update that I will be making a post about issues surrounding Jason Ho tomorrow. There will still be more people to talk to after tomorrow but I will have more than enough information to publicly and openly communicate to the community.

My post will respond to issues surrounding Jason Ho as a coach and also to issues surrounding the staking fund. Both are important issues and need to be specifically addressed.

Thanks for your patience.

Jim

we have officially entered the twilight zone

CR/Stox doing this right, imo.

QFT

I don't understand why, TT, but your comments in this thread certainly make it look as if you are willfully blind to what's really going on here. I'm not sure how anyone could read all the information posted so far and describe it as "basically a staking deal gone bad". For starters, that is completely dismissive of what I think is the broader concern here: The role of Stoxpoker in backing this individual with their brand, and questions about what reasonable precautions they took to verify his claims and track record (particularly since they appear to have advertised him as a coach with the "$1 million winner" claim).

I will say that everything that Jason from Stox has posted ITT about their process is reassuring, putting aside their potential role in this clusterfudge to begin with.

TT, pointing out that the people who got scammed are naive is obvious and ridiculous, imo. To a certain extent, scammers gonna scam, and there will always be people out there willing to buy into those scams. That makes it all the more important that legitimate businesses like Stoxpoker, who earn business based on their reputation and an implied promise of results, make sure that reputation is backed up by, at a minimum, qualified non-scammers as coaches.

Finally, here's a question: If an individual who

a) appears, over significant sample sizes, to be a losing player,
b) who, based on descriptions here, shows signs of being a gambling addict,
c) gives multiple people (including another Stox) coach the impression of not knowing wtf he's talking about,
d) entered into bankruptcy months before being hired on as a coach,

can be a Stox poker coach, then what exactly is their screening process excluding?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks8ZkLbmXmE

Jason Ho Parody Vid.

the aftermath of it all, yes. the screening process, no.

My sides hurt... quality stuff

I can only assume that it is based on the as-yet-to-be-revealed info from the mod-locked thread and/or stox threads and/or internal Stox discussions that he claims to be privy to, but to which we are not...yet. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point because, as you point out, it seems bizarre to the point of irrational to try and paint this thing as a 'staking deal gone bad' based only on the info ITT and TT appears to be the only one championing that view. For now, I guess all there is to do is await Stox's statement and see if any more info from the Stox forums or the participants themselves trickles out.

this is golden !!

to the people mad at stox for hiring him in the first place if you watch any of his vids you would understand why, good or bad he made some decent poker videos and was usually very helpful in the forums. its not like they hooked him up to a lie detector machine and said hey are you going to butt F our customers you pos?!? he probally sent in abunch of one time graphs where he ran good and made a good video for a application and they liked it so they hired him. sucks to hear about all this because he really did seem like a cool guy (obv what he wanted.)

hahaha...so true...

also does anyone else find it ridiculously hilarious that people accuse him of scamming them to fund his gambling addiction and the first thing he does is come in here and try to make propbets? lolololol good defense numnuts.

like 10 ppl in various threads have said his vids suck. ive never seen any stox vids so i cant say myself but look around, word on the street is this guy isnt good at poker and his vids prove it.

The problem that it s easy to say his videos are craps since the affair has been revealed , but from what i know i didn t found so many bad comments on his video before this thread begon... So it would have been more usefull to critize and inform the community about his sucky video before no ? There were no info about that , neither on stox or Two+two before this thread begon , i don t want to argue more cos i am a bit tired of this but come on guys be serious , this was not so easy to see !