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09-23-2008, 02:54 AM
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LeggoPoker Sponsored Forum
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Running the Streets
Posts: 7,777
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Memoirs of aejones
Due to a large demand for coaching, I elected to put most of my thoughts into an audio format- specifically, concepts I felt I was repeating too often. I'm primarily a high stakes player, and am a coach and video producer at Leggo Poker.
The Memoirs of aejones is a comprehensive audio series designed to teach people how to think about NLHE. Although aimed at 6m and shorthanded NLHE, the information is also very applicable to Heads Up play. The idea is to allow each listener to get a better understanding of important concepts in today's increasingly aggressive games.
Throughout the series, I had a 'class' of students to test the course, ranging from 1-2 NL to 10-20 NL. Each chapter is 45-90 minutes long, and after the completion of the chapter, students asked questions which were answer in 'conference calls.' There are 6 conference calls at the moment, some chapters conference calls were lost due to technical difficulties and will be replaced in the future, some conference calls are combined, and two conference calls still have to take place (Ch. 9 and 10). These conference calls should be considered a bonus, and are also approximately 45-90 minutes in length.
Additionally, everyone who purchases the memoirs series will be given access to a private forum where players are encouraged to ask questions about what they've heard in the chapters and situations/hands they've gotten into. I will answer all threads personally, along with participation from the rest of the group (everyone who has the memoirs series). There are already several dozen threads in the forum; the more involved all students are, the more they are sure to get out of it.
Throughout the chapters, I had a sidekick accompanying the discussion. In most of the chapters, fellow winning HSNL player Andrew Lichtenberger (luckychewy) aided me. During the Chapter on Psychology, I asked Gabe Patgorski (g-p/gp333) to join me [and had Pat O'Brien (obiedman) along for the conference call]. For the Chapter on Deep Play, I had Rob Eckstut (BobboFitos) along for the ride. Overall, I had a very strong lineup of fellow players to give a second opinion.
This is the breakdown of the chapters, which are available only as the set of 10.
Chapter 1: Preflop: Discussion of basic preflop raising ranges, raise sizes, and the reasons for these raise sizes.
Chapter 2: 3-betting, Calling 3-bets, and 4-betting: The Second level of preflop, the reraise.
Chapter 3: Playing 3-bet pots with the Lead: When to double barrel, when you c-bet and when not to c-bet.
Chapter 4: Playing 3-bet pots without the Initiative: Namely, playing postflop in position without the lead.
Chapter 5: Single Raised Pots on the Flop: Reading board textures with regards to c-betting, bluff-raising, and floating.
Chapter 6: Single Raised Pots on Later Streets: Turn and river play, tricks of the trade, multi barrel spots.
Chapter 7: Psychology: Levelling with the levelling master.
(featuring gp333 and obiedman)
Chapter 8: Deep Play: Preflop and postflop, with emphasis on board textures, pot to stack ratio, and stack leveraging.
(featuring Bobbofitos)
Chapter 9: Bet-Sizing: Reading bet-sizing and utilizing pot to stack ratio.
Chapter 10: Leading and Reacting to Leads: Leading into the preflop raiser and what to do when you encounter it yourself.
Finally, I asked my students to write an unbiased review of the memoirs series. I have included most of those testimonials below, completely unadulterated. It is likely I'll have more people stop by and give their reviews as time progresses.
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"The Memoirs series definitely unlocked an entirely new realm of
understanding of poker to me, as it went above and beyond the typical
issues discussed on forums and videos and into a theory-backed style
of play that was entertaining to digest week after week. The overall
series was very comprehensive, as I felt adequate time was devoted to
each subject, and the audiobook format makes it easy to go back to a
previous chapter without any hassle. The addition of guests throughout
the chapters, notably gabe and bobbo, added a great deal of insight
and flavor as well. The conference calls are nice, only I wish I
could've taken full advantage of them from early on, by asking as many
questions as humanly possible and figuring out spots I'd have trouble
in, etc. Instead I only asked about one or two questions per chapter,
as did everyone else, and I think we all could've done much better in
that regard."
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Kevin "Sirasoni" Ko
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"In last years game you could be great preflop player and dominate mnsl cash games, unfortunately for some and fortunately for the people who have already listened to the memoirs series it is essential these days to have a good postflop game in your arsenal. Being a tournament player I was a great preflop poker player but Aaron and Andrew showed me how to add the other dimensions to my arsenal to make my game complete. Honestly my only regret is not having the urgency to put in more hands before this went public."
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Hunter "Actionjacson" Fritz
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"Aaron's series would be of great value to any player, particularly MSNLers looking for an edge in increasingly tough games. The chapters are very well-organized, and he covers a variety of topics that aren't easy to explain. With the amount of content packed into each lesson and discussion, combined with Aaron's trademark Midwestern twang, the dollar-per-hour value is as good as it gets. I found myself pausing to reflect and rewinding multiple times within the chapters, which is a testament to the quality of discussion and the broad range of topics.
Hearing the depth of Aaron's thought process brought new light to concepts that I didn't think I needed any help with. He partners with qualified guests for the recordings, and hearing the uninhibited interaction between them on various topics was awesome. Overall, I would highly recommend the series as it is of excellent value."
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Craig "craigthedeac" Boyd
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"The memoirs of aejones and the concepts within it have really revolutionized my game. In todays game it is important to always be on top of the most current strategies out there. Things that I have never thought of before were introduced to me and I have been able to implement them in my game. Besdies aejones lecturing, there's also commentary from luckychewy and one chapter is with gabe (gp33) on psychology. Once you move up to the higher levels, everyone can play poker and has no glaring leaks but what sperates the winners from the losers is the ability to adapt to your oponents and always be one step ahead of them. The information contained both in that psychology chapter and throughout the other chapters will help discover some of your leaks(no one is leak-free although AEjones may think he is),expose and open your mind to new concepts, and ultimately advance your poker mind enabling you to make more money."
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Kevin "VicTree" Bryniczka
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"This series helped me solidify my understanding of the fundamentals of poker, whilst opening my eyes to different thought processes and ideas. You get a ton of information on an excellent player's approach to the game that took him years to develop. It's thought provoking and thorough, and can't do anything but help to improve your poker development."
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Martin "DODGYKEN" Coleman
Finally, I will be updating the series somewhat by providing 30-60 minute "reports" of how the game is changing, what the newest trends are, and what my favorite new tricks are every 3 months or so in audio format.
The cost of the entire series is $5,000, payable on Poker Stars or Full Tilt.
For more information, or to purchase the series, please email me with your name, a reliable email address and (if you're purchasing) a desired screen name to memoirsofaejones at gmail dot com
Thanks.
Last edited by Pokeraddict; 09-23-2008 at 03:00 PM.
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09-23-2008, 09:10 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: herding cats
Posts: 242
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
5k????? <gulp>
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09-23-2008, 09:14 AM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,115
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
This will be epic
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09-23-2008, 11:39 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,930
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
man i really really wish i could afford this...  . AE mfing jones is sick... his insight in his leggo videos is simply amazing.
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09-23-2008, 11:56 AM
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LeggoPoker Sponsored Forum
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Running the Streets
Posts: 7,777
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
ok someone buy this and just put it out on torrents.
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I'm not sure what torrents are, but they are DRM protected and I assume you're talking about some kind of pirating.
I like to think the level of interaction and the information in the series is such that no one would want to do this, and I also trust my current students.
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09-23-2008, 12:47 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: looking to move in w/ HU players
Posts: 1,702
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
lol between this and $5000 worth of personal coaching, i'd like to think that personal coaching would take you a lot farther.
anyone buy the audio and care to share any thoughts?
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09-23-2008, 12:57 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: WFU
Posts: 1,440
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
ok someone buy this and just put it out on torrents.
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Are you serious? Ban please.
My thoughts on Aaron's series are quoted in the OP. Yes, they're expensive and I'm sure Aaron is aware, but successful MSNL+ players will be able to realize the value relatively quickly. The $/hr value from the series is about half of what you would pay with Aaron personally if my rough math is accurate. Also the series is packed with more content that you would get in a typical session in my experience.
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09-23-2008, 03:02 PM
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IB and A/R Mod
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 1 Cardboard Box
Posts: 5,630
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
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Originally Posted by craigthedeac
Are you serious? Ban please.
My thoughts on Aaron's series are quoted in the OP. Yes, they're expensive and I'm sure Aaron is aware, but successful MSNL+ players will be able to realize the value relatively quickly. The $/hr value from the series is about half of what you would pay with Aaron personally if my rough math is accurate. Also the series is packed with more content that you would get in a typical session in my experience.
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Let's assume it was a joke (I hope so) but I deleted it anyway.
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09-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Stoxpokercoach
Posts: 1,907
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
Brag- I was there when chapter 8 was recorded. Rob and AE were great in that chapter from what I heard.
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09-23-2008, 04:09 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PARTY PRIME!!!!!!
Posts: 9,661
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
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Originally Posted by aejones
I'm not sure what torrents are, but they are DRM protected and I assume you're talking about some kind of pirating.
I like to think the level of interaction and the information in the series is such that no one would want to do this, and I also trust my current students.
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DRM doesn't go far =\, but hopefully people won't be douchey enough to steal it.
To be honest, it's sort of refreshing to see a nice jump in coaching prices. This appears to be a very well thought out lesson plan, and I think the price is nothing compared to what someone could gain from it. The best coaches literally offer you the opportunity to make hundreds of thousands of dollars, if you listen, practice and take the steps yourself to be a winning player, so $5k really isn't that big of an investment given the potential returns. That said I haven't used or seen the product, but the feedback seems extremely positive. I wish you the best of luck aejones.
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09-23-2008, 04:41 PM
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LeggoPoker Sponsored Forum
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Running the Streets
Posts: 7,777
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
I wanted to say something else. Please don't spend >25% of your BR on this. Frankly you shouldn't spend more than 10% of your BR on this series, as it's not a cure-all, just a method for thinking about NLHE correctly.
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09-23-2008, 11:39 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Flip'landia
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
The problem with this is that its probably most valuable to 1/2 - 3/6 grinders - people who can not afford it. If you could install some sort of a payment plan, it would probably get more popular. And I think that charging $5000 for a distributional media is a way to disaster. I mean, it will be on torrents regardless. Simply because someone will buy it and then resell copies at a discount. DRM is nothing. What it also means is that well intentioned people who would otherwise pay you say $1,000, will wait for torrents because they can not afford it otherwise.
Last edited by corsakh; 09-23-2008 at 11:45 PM.
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09-23-2008, 11:52 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: operating the light in tha fridge
Posts: 222
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
DRM doesnt work so great i know a few people have messed around CR a bit
It would be more affordable if it was broken down into 3 packages or something ??
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09-24-2008, 12:12 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Paying Attention
Posts: 4,202
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
Yeah, but if he didn't offer the most expensive audiobook it would hurt his ego.
I would buy it in parts or if the price was lower fwiw.
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09-24-2008, 02:09 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: having sick reads son
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Re: Memoirs of aejones
I really don't think anyone who is going to spend 5k on this will leak it to people for free
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