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Old 11-02-2016, 05:17 PM   #1
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FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

Hi I'm new to the forum and new to poker so take it easy on me 😆

My question is this... as a beginner who has started to try to develop my game through online videos/articles I am repeatedly being advised to play tight. To perhaps only play premium hands. My problem is that by folding almost all my hands whilst waiting for my premium hand my stack slowly gets eaten by the blinds/ante. When a decent hand comes along I play aggressively but if I don't win the hand then I'm in even more trouble. How can I play TAG but not just fade away bit by bit whilst waiting for the good hands?

Sorry for the long post. Hope someone has some sound advice. Thanks
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:59 PM   #2
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

Assuming you are talking about MTTs, as a beginner player I would recommend playing LAG, concentrating heavily on position and perhaps your read of other players. You will learn faster through trial and error than if you hold out for premium hands.
As you get more experienced you can tighten up your game.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:45 PM   #3
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

If you are at a good table you should be able to get action even though you are only playing selectively.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:23 AM   #4
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

Robredo, I too am a complete beginner myself and I used to find myself in similar situations as you (eaten up by blinds/ante). But depending on the situation, I am no longer folding as much as I would in the past.

Although its best to always play strong hands, even weak hands can grab a win and don't be afraid to play. As the previous poster mentioned, all about trial and error.

I am also developing my skills through online videos/articles/apps as I've grown to really love to play, any advice on what references you've found helpful thus far?
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:54 AM   #5
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

I have been using the gripsed channel on YouTube and just other articles I've found with Google searches.
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:38 PM   #6
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

If you are just beginning definitely stick with a tighter strategy + position as a lot of the marginal hands become unprofitable if you're unsure about postflop lines. As you start to improve you can start to play more hands profitably. A LAG strategy is more profitable if you are competent postflop and is better/more profitable when playing with weaker players at micros as you get to play more pots with an edge. If you are just starting stick to a tighter strategy and as you get more experienced you can loosen up and make more hands profitable
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:54 PM   #7
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

I really like what cznsnowy91 said. TIGHT IS RIGHT! The main reason is to avoid costly mistakes. You will be amazed how many nice looking hands are EV-. Up to nl400 people are just focused on themselves and they don't really care what you do. So just play tight and wait how other players who will play beautiful poker will lose money to you.

If you want to stick to being tight - print all ranges that you play and keep them near PC while playing - it will be very helpful.
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:56 AM   #8
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I really like what cznsnowy91 said. TIGHT IS RIGHT! The main reason is to avoid costly mistakes. You will be amazed how many nice looking hands are EV-. Up to nl400 people are just focused on themselves and they don't really care what you do. So just play tight and wait how other players who will play beautiful poker will lose money to you.

If you want to stick to being tight - print all ranges that you play and keep them near PC while playing - it will be very helpful.
I agree with you but I am wondering what is consdered tight in your mind as different people have different definitions.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:02 AM   #9
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RFI 13-14/17-18/20-24/38-44/40-45 very tight, solid and working well
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Old 12-10-2016, 06:25 AM   #10
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That is indeed tight But not a bad plan at all for a beginner.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:02 AM   #11
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Re: FRUSTRATED BEGINNER!!!

I've had the exact same problem as a beginner. I was playing far too many hands and when I had a decent hand I would try to "outplay" them by not raising and just calling pre-flop which allowed many players to get in and beat me.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:02 PM   #12
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I know what you are talking about. Im myself a beginner and playing really tight, however getting frustrated as even that way Im still getting beaten. In under one hour I had ace pairs pre-flop in both cases a guy went all in on pre-flop with 4-3 and the second with 4-4. The 4-3 managed to hit 4 and 3 on turn and river. The guy with 4-4 hit a set straight away on flop. Dont know whats wrong or if Im just being unlucky all the time beaten by seemingly weaker hands.
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:38 PM   #13
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I know what you are talking about. Im myself a beginner and playing really tight, however getting frustrated as even that way Im still getting beaten. In under one hour I had ace pairs pre-flop in both cases a guy went all in on pre-flop with 4-3 and the second with 4-4. The 4-3 managed to hit 4 and 3 on turn and river. The guy with 4-4 hit a set straight away on flop. Dont know whats wrong or if Im just being unlucky all the time beaten by seemingly weaker hands.


Sounds like a fluke that won't happen all the time.


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Old 03-13-2017, 06:03 PM   #14
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Youtube will guide you in better way.

There is no need to be frustrated initially because everything takes time and few amount of extra practise will conquer it for you.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:28 PM   #15
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Hi I'm new to the forum and new to poker so take it easy on me 😆

My question is this... as a beginner who has started to try to develop my game through online videos/articles I am repeatedly being advised to play tight. To perhaps only play premium hands. My problem is that by folding almost all my hands whilst waiting for my premium hand my stack slowly gets eaten by the blinds/ante. When a decent hand comes along I play aggressively but if I don't win the hand then I'm in even more trouble. How can I play TAG but not just fade away bit by bit whilst waiting for the good hands?

Sorry for the long post. Hope someone has some sound advice. Thanks
This is a classic misconception, new players often hear such things as "play tight", "always raise on the button" and many other quotes like tht and think it can and should be applied to every game they sit at without knowing the context in which such quotes were made, first of all cash poker and mtt poker are two very different beasts altogether, TAG is imo the best bss strategy for cash games providing you have a well balanced range, but in saying tht ive come across some pretty damn gd cash game LAGS but tht strategy requires much more skill to play profitably, in mtt's youre playing against the clock as well as ur opponents so you cant just sit and wait for premium hands, you have to make ur own arrangements in mtt's, mix it up and steal ur fair share of the blinds, my advice would be dont take the things you hear other players say as gospel

Cash poker = tight is right (but with a balanced range)
MTT's = LAG, find the sweet spot between tight and loose based on what the table will allow u to get away with, ie if the table doesnt fight bk much then steal more, Cbet more, if u meet resistance then wind ur neck in a bit and only battle with gd cards

Hope tht helps some, GL
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