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09-14-2014 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
I would love if other coaches would also encourage students to publicly document their progress from A to Z. Then we could have some (friendly) competition on that field as well.
sorry to post in your coaching thread, feel free to delete my post if you mind.
(I have a personal rule of not posting in other coaches' threads but I feel you are expecting some kind of reply from other coaches)

You have been coaching longer than pretty much everyone here. I can't speak for others but obviously I couldn't show more success stories in 3-4 months of coaching than you in ~4 years :-)

Since you're talking about transparency though I've shown my username and results even though I am an active player.
What I don't understand is why you would keep your username(s) as a former player secret.
On the first page you only show 75k hands without revealing the sn. Then say that other coaches are not transparent.

Obviously I realize that results as a coach >> results as a player but that doesn't mean your player results aren't important.
09-14-2014 , 11:50 AM
P.S : the above post means no disrespect to you btw, I've seen a coaching sample of you once and I could tell(even if you haven't shown a proof) from the way you explained things that you were/are indeed a very good player and an even better coach and you focused on the important details of the game unlike others.

Last edited by JonIrenicus; 09-14-2014 at 12:05 PM.
09-14-2014 , 02:36 PM
@Coach Jonirenicus:

I do not look to discuss with other coaches in my thread (and will ask for the comments to be moved to a separate forum). You have your obvious motives for posting. Maybe it is because former microstakes players make more than you after being on BPC for 9 months?! You should not be offended, but instead be motivated to do better at the table and/or as a coach! I have not mentioned your name, nor attacked you in a direct way. You should have stayed professional and refraimed from this.

My graphs + all SN's i ever played on were verified and checked by pokerstrategy.com . It looks like a cheap shot from your side. You are better than that.

Actually i don't even know who you are, but just checked your thread and you look like a straight-forward and nice person and perhaps a good coach as well.

Let's compete on our coaching product(s) and let students + results decide, can we?

P.s.: You said that you're in your 3rd or 4th month. Great. Everything great starts somewhere. Sure you can't have hundreds of glowing reviews by now, but I have started at 0 as well and worked hard for all of this.


My advice for you is the following:

1) Focus on coaching, produce good results for your students. Facts always speak louder than words.

2) Never comment in another coaches thread, unless the coach has commented in your thread, attacked you personally or you want to congratulate and support in a positive way. Never say you have rule x and then break it. It's like people saying "I don't wanna hurt you / i'm not racist, but (insert hurtful / racist comment).

3) Highlight your own advantages (like i do) without personally attacking a competing coach.

4) Stay strong when the inevitable problems come. Just like in poker, also as a coach you show your biggest strength in the tough times.

5) Remove all doubt about your ability as a coach by taking on a losing microstakes player and help him make lots of money. Let the student document it publicly. You can start today! It's never to late.

Hope this helped! I wish you all the best and hope we can have a more respectful communication in the future!

- Gordon
09-14-2014 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JonIrenicus
you were/are indeed a very good player and an even better coach and you focused on the important details of the game
^^
I didn't mean to attack or take a "cheap shot" at you in any way.
I am sorry if that's what it seemed and I even said to delete my post if you feel offended.
My only intent was to reply to what you were saying about transparency and that's all it was.
There is no jealousy or anything like that, I only play ~2 hours a day(pursuing other investments too) and have a few students who made more $ than I did even before contacting me for coaching.

Last edited by JonIrenicus; 09-14-2014 at 07:18 PM.
09-14-2014 , 07:59 PM
We talked via PM, he said that there was no bad intention and i accept it as that.

Peace, no popcorn.gif

- Gordon
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