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12-01-2009, 09:49 PM
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journeyman
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
If you want more information about the sites, check out pokercurious.com. They offer solid, unbiased information no the sites such as cost, instructors, strengths, etc.
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12-01-2009, 10:05 PM
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#32
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: McAllen, Texas, USA
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
I also definitely wouldn't recommend pokertrainingguide for any sort of impartial review of anything.
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Can you site somewhere where their reviews are inaccurate? I use this site as I belong to several training site (though I might bounce around) & for the most part they appear pretty much on. In many cases on some sites they even go instructor by instructor in reporting on the quality of vids & you can see some instructors getting praised & others getting slammed.
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12-01-2009, 10:17 PM
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#33
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: McAllen, Texas, USA
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by TrevRobCR
If you want more information about the sites, check out pokercurious.com. They offer solid, unbiased information no the sites such as cost, instructors, strengths, etc.
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It has "reviews" that are comprised of 1 sentence long statements. At least at the other review site you get to read about the specific instructors & their vids in detail. If I'm going to plunk down my cash for a training site I want to know as much as I can before I put my $$ down.
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12-01-2009, 10:21 PM
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#34
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journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ontario canada
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
how about pokertrainingreviews.net,,
is that impartial or just as bias as pokertrainingguide?
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12-01-2009, 10:27 PM
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#35
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Food = Love
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I'm with you in stockland
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by PanchoStern
Can you site somewhere where their reviews are inaccurate? I use this site as I belong to several training site (though I might bounce around) & for the most part they appear pretty much on. In many cases on some sites they even go instructor by instructor in reporting on the quality of vids & you can see some instructors getting praised & others getting slammed.
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They're not impartial and have a massive conflict of interest. It seems highly likely they get paid to pimp certain sites, as referred to by those who have been in the industry ITT. Even on the off chance they're not favoring some sites over others for financial gain, they're definitely favoring the training site industry as a whole for financial gain. Or, to get on the list of sites they review, you have to pay, etc etc. I just don't know why anybody would consider going to a place that so obviously has a huge conflict of interest for advice when you can ask the question to people who aren't in bed with the sites instead.
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12-01-2009, 10:32 PM
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#36
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Food = Love
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by TrevRobCR
If you want more information about the sites, check out pokercurious.com. They offer solid, unbiased information no the sites such as cost, instructors, strengths, etc.
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and a nice referral link at the bottom, too, though I'm not sure what makes you so confident they're not getting paid also.
I'm not saying these sites are completely devoid of useful information, I'm just saying you're getting advice from places that have self-interests that influence what's being presented to users. One of the nice things about the training site discussion here is that you can get the opinion of the users who have no self-interest about the debate except what actually helps them improve.
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12-01-2009, 10:42 PM
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#37
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: location, location
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
I can second what Trev said about PokerCurious. I have worked with Bill and he has never mentioned an affiliate program of any kind. The information on PC is completely honest as far as I know.
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12-01-2009, 10:46 PM
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#38
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Food = Love
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by MASTERHOLMES
how about pokertrainingreviews.net,,
is that impartial or just as bias as pokertrainingguide?
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Their top ranked site is bluefire, and in their review of it is a link that says ">>>>>>> Sign Up at the Best Poker Training Site - Bluefire Poker <<<<<<<". I would be very surprised if bluefire did not pay for that link (and that link's wording), but it seems in context like it's pokertrainingguide saying "join the best site!" as if that's the review talking and not the paid advertisement. The PTG-written introduction to HUSNG.com (which I love, by the way) is "If you play or want to play heads up sit and goes, then a subscription here is a must.", which is ridiculous. It's pretty much all the same.
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12-01-2009, 10:50 PM
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#39
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Food = Love
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I'm with you in stockland
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by Matt Probability
I can second what Trev said about PokerCurious. I have worked with Bill and he has never mentioned an affiliate program of any kind. The information on PC is completely honest as far as I know.
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On the page it discloses that they receive money from CR/Stox, when you read the reviews there's often a "Put in PokerCurious as your promo code." message. I'm not saying this is evil or anything, you have to have a viable business model and this is pretty much the only way of doing it, I'm just saying that if CR/Stox's quality declined, I have a hard time believing a site like PokerCurious that's funded by CR/Stox would start disparaging them.
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12-01-2009, 11:25 PM
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#40
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 357
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
I can't say with 100% certainty on the affiliate thing. I did notice all the sites he has referral codes for, so I don't see any reason for biased reviews because of that. I will say of all sites, his is the most accurate. I simply directed players to this site because it's the most honest , accurate, and allows you to compare the sites and what they offer. I will try to get the owner of the site to reply in this thread to follow up on that though.
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12-01-2009, 11:27 PM
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#41
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 357
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
I also want to say that the best source is this thread. If you have any questions about any sites, others will be glad to answer them. These training site reviews should be used as a "guide" to simply show what they offer.
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12-01-2009, 11:31 PM
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#42
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East Coast Elephant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: CHASE QP, PAYPAL, AMAZON = UNSAFE!
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
i think a really good source would be talking to folks who are already members of the sites, no? those people are paying money and have an opinion about what they're getting for it. it seems like other sites will always have some kind of angle that might impugn their impartiality.
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12-01-2009, 11:35 PM
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#43
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Food = Love
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I'm with you in stockland
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by TrevRobCR
I also want to say that the best source is this thread. If you have any questions about any sites, others will be glad to answer them. These training site reviews should be used as a "guide" to simply show what they offer.
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I agree with this. I'd pretty much disregard the "ratings" and just read the pure facts about what the sites offer.
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12-02-2009, 12:07 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: McAllen, Texas, USA
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
I don't really put any credence to the ratings but if you read the reviews, like I said they are pretty in depth compared to the other site listed. I got a lot of respect for them after I read their review on SNGIcons which was pretty honest. After that I've used them pretty much for all the sites I've been interested in joining. I think it's the best site for reviews out there.
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12-02-2009, 01:37 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 497
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Re: * Official Training Site Discussion Thread *
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i think a really good source would be talking to folks who are already members of the sites, no? those people are paying money and have an opinion about what they're getting for it. it seems like other sites will always have some kind of angle that might impugn their impartiality.
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this is what I was trying to do on page 1
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