I would just suggest looking for a training site.

Your bankroll is $550 and you'll probably need at the very least a few coaching sessions with any coach to really give yourself the type of value you can get from good training sites (which shouldn't cost you that much, it can even be free on many sites).

Look more towards getting a coach as your br grows.

The only exception in your case I could see is if you had a lot of outside poker money you were fine with utilizing towards your progress. But if $550 is it, I wouldn't spend a few hundred on the coaching you'll likely need to really grow that roll (note that the guy you mention actually makes videos and has on multiple sites. Watch his videos a bit maybe, and other people's, then when you're starting to progress and make some more money go to him for coaching. $50 is very affordable for a well reputable coach, but you'll end up having to spend $150-250 dollars and with $550 in your roll I think that's too much).

FR for the past year sir, i feel that 6max would improve my postflop game faster but i have no real preference.

I do own a ton of DC videos being a member there and i think i might be the sort that needs direct advice from a coach than a video

I did subscribe to DC and watched a ton of videos (which i still have hehe). I feel that my postflop play has indeed improved, but i think there are a lot of leaks that i am not aware of. Maybe i should look for a study group or something?

I saw this and figured I could use some starcraft 2 coaching as well! I can trade hu sng help You really don't even need to be great at starcraft, just good enough to teach me build priorities and mid game planning.

Hi,

I'm a pretty recreational player who used to be play a lot (and was generally successful) but was never disciplined/intelligent about play. I still aim to play maybe 10 hours a week at most, but make enough at my dayjob to want to hire a coach that can help me think about my game intelligently. I mostly want to be able to crush live play like I used to (where I'd play a lot more than 100NL) and also do well at the 100NL games on stars/tilt/bodog.

Most of my success in the past came from MTTs. In the past year or so I have played poker intermittently and consistently bled money like crazy. I want to hit the reset button at 100NL and try to get some help.

I'd like to hire someone with good references and a decent hourly rate (which I guess I can determine based on the market of responses to this post). Any links to testimonials or positive comments from "people of repute" are highly valued.

Feel Free to PM me.

lol @ this. Disco is a great coach and isn't 'coaching the micros'. He coaches right up to 100nl and I have no idea why you would think that a coach who probably makes atleast $150/hr playing would charge less than $50/hr for any stake. It would be, to say the least, ******ed if they did.

ummmmmmmmm NO. if you are offering coaching at nl25 and nl50(apparently he coaches lower too) you are coaching the micros. lol @ saying he is not.

FACT: poker coaches are extremely overpriced.

the idea that there is a lost opportunity cost directly associated with coaching is a fallacy used via people to charge outrageous hourlys. very few people play 40-50 hrs a week and no one plays their A game for that long.

most people don't handle poker variance well so there should be a huge premium on variance-free money. i was shocked when i saw how terribly some hs players handled variance. i don't think any coach should get >%60 what he can make playing poker, and that should be reserved for the best coaches.

guess we are going to get into speicifics about disco cause of your post. gonna send him a pm and ask him to post his results for 2010.

you do realize that coaching is one of the best ways to improve your game. the hardest part is finding a good coach that is willing to work at your game with you. It sounds like you must have paid a lot of money to get coached by a monkey which is why your so bitter against it

you think a poker coach is justified in charging his poker hourly? 80% his hourly? or is it whatever someone is willing to pay?

you don't think poker coaching is overpriced?

only thing i'm bitter about is an ebook.

lol, disco got so defensive in his pms it was hilarious. he is refusing to post his 2010 HM sessions tab. he definitely doesn't make 150/hr slowlane......

i do disagree with your first line.. were you saying in general for everyone? for newer players, maybe.

I wouldnt be surprised if he got offended to your pm. some random donk comes in talking like he knows everything and bashes his coaching for no reason whatsoever.

i wasn't getting defensive in my pm's i was simply telling you why i don't need to post my results in the official coaching request thread to some coaching headhunter. i don't see the need to post it. if your interested in my results you can look me up on ptr. otherwise all the good reviews and testimonials and graphs of peoples games i've helped improve should suffice. you can find those in my coaching thread.

LOL.

gonna ignore my questions?

a nl10 player made a thread asking for advice. i gave him mine. someone bashed my advice and now i'm defending it. i have to assume your friends with disco.

all i care about is how close to 150/hr you are. not enough to go check your PTR as i have a good grasp on what 1/2 FR regs make.

how many tables do you play at a time?

edit: coaching headhunter lol! lets go IKA answer my questions or GTFO.

first id like to say NOWHERE did i state i make 150$/hr. slowlane said that. i never stated that, and no, i do not make 150$/hr.

i know that. wheres the second?


won't say how many tables you play? lol now i'm curious enuff to ptr you.

why won't you post your 2010 sessions tabs..... its absurd not too. i'm guessing you've played very little volume this year?

ok so you 9 table at most playing FR making about 6 cents a hand which is like $32/hr pre rakeback... with what 11 or so dollars an hour in rb. wow.

so you make ~45/hr playing poker and charge 50-60/hr to coach micro players. 80/hr for 100nl. people think this is a fair price?

you think you are justified in charging a lot more than you make per hour playing poker?

No offense Sh@i'tan, but coaching prices are mostly determined by the market.

If Disco made $400 hr but he had bad coaching reviews, he wouldn't likely be able to charge any more than half of his hourly.

I do agree with some of your points about the whole "I charge my hourly bc of opportunity cost" stuff, but that's not exactly that status quo these days and mostly was from inexperienced coaches or very busy coaches (a busy coach would have to consider opportunity cost a lot more so than one that just plays poker for a living. An example would be a coach with a job or an active investment or a coach that makes videos full time for a web site in addition to playing and coaching high volume).

But please take the rest of this discussion to the PMs. If there's anything malicious going on in either of your eyes, please report it to a moderator.

why should this go to PMs? the status quo has been crap since poker coaching started. it seems now is a good time for it to change, or at least for players to be informed they are paying too much. the assertions that were made in his PMs to me are so absurd. some lol justification he is using.


maybe i should make a thread about coaches universally charging too much?

This. Or bump an existing "coaching is a scam" "coaching is a ripoff" thread. It's been discussed since this forum went up.

And I said to go to PMs because this is the coaching request thread, not exactly appropriate to be debating the merits of coaching in general.

maybe you should find something better to do with your time? maybe get a boyfriend? maybe make some friends? you seem really really bored.... seriously no one cares...

I am looking for a coach in shallow stack 6 max / CAP 6max I play full time at $2/4.

I'm really sorry to Disco for making any assumptions about his hourly/bringing him into this thread. I'm also sorry that this thread has been completely hi-jacked and it's mostly my fault.

I think you should start your own thread Shai-tan and we can all discuss it there if you like. I'm not aggressively supporting or defending any views but, as a coach myself, I always like to hear people's thoughts on pricing and why they think it's too much.

looking for 100/200/400NL 6 max coach and possible backer. Looking for a coach with good stats and redline thats around breakeven. Coach will help me open up my game and find spots post flop to win without showdown. 100NL stats below.

Hey I just wanted to chime in to this matter. I am a golf pro and teach lessons for $125.00 an hour. I am no tiger woods. I took a lesson from Disco and he was very professional and was easily worth the money. How can you rate a coaches worth based on what he makes at the tables? There are so many crappy poker players myself included. I was a big loser and am now down to break even thanks to a lesson from Disco. He set up my Hud and even took the time to answer questions on his own time. I have taught over 1000 golf lessons and i have walked away from at least 100 of them where i felt i did not give the student their money's worth. Yet people phone me and re-book and tell all their friends i am the best coach. Poker is very specialized and most poker coaches know a great deal more than the student. Therefore it is worth the money if you need help.

i think the conclusion is Sh@i'tan is an donk with too much time on his hands... seriously

I beat 50nl 6max at 1BB over almost 100k hands, was 2BB but ran super bad.

I've been adding 1 FR table to 4 6max, if you wanna talk ranges, lmk...

My name is bluffingolfa on stars, the main games that I play are 12 180 mans. I have been able to have some decent success in these style tournies but have not been able to have to much success in the bigger mtts. So what I am looking for is a coach who has had mtt success so we can go through and start plugging my leaks. PM me whenever you get a chance (sorry for this being so sloppy currently on a road trip using my blackberry)